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ORER Size Data - 1894 Description 4/1903 Length 34' Width Height Capacity (Pounds) 40000
ORER Size Data Description 6/1910 4/1914 11/1914 12/1914 M.C.B. Designation XM XM Inside
DimensionsLength 34' 34' 34' 34' Width 8' to 9'-2" 8' 8' 8' Height 6'-10" 6'-10" 6'-10" Outside
DimensionsLength 34'-9" 34'-9" 34'-9" 34'-9" Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 8'-9" 8'-9" 8'-9" 8'-9" Extreme Width Height
from
RailTo Extreme Width To Eaves or top of sides or platform To Top of Running Board To Extreme Height Door - Side
openingWidth 5' Height 7' Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 1859 1859 1859 Pounds 40000 40000 40000 40000 Note I believe these are existing cars being renumbered into a contiguous series
ORER History ORER Date
(Year-Mo.)Car
Numbers# of
CarsDescription 1900 - 11 41100-42563 570 Box, 34', 40000 lbs capacity 1900 - 12 " 571 " 1901 - 01 " 602 " 1901 - 02 " 1422 " 1901 - 03 " 1421 " 1901 - 04 (same) 1901 - 05 " 1449 " 1901 - 06 " 1439 " 1901 - 07 41100-42599 " " 1901 - 08 " 1450 " 1901 - 09 " 1457 " 1901 - 10 (same) 1901 - 11 " 1453 " 1901 - 12 " 1452 " 1902 - 01 " 1451 " 1902 - 02 " 1446 " 1902 - 03 " 1444 " 1902 - 04 " 1443 " 1902 - 05 (same) 1902 - 06 (same) 1902 - 07 (same) 1902 - 08 " 1438 " 1902 - 09 (same) 1902 - 10 (same) 1902 - 11 " 1434 " 1902 - 12 " 1432 " 1903 - 01 " 1431 " 1903 - 02 " 1432 " 1903 - 03 " 1415 " 1903 - 04 41100-42999 1414 Box 1903 - 05 " 1413 " 1903 - 06 " 1410 " 1903 - 07 " 1409 " 1903 - 08 " 1406 " 1903 - 09 " 1405 " 1903 - 10 " 1397 " 1903 - 11 " 1395 " 1903 - 12 " 1391 " 1904 - 01 " 1387 " 1904 - 02 (same) 1904 - 03 (same) 1904 - 04 " 1384 " 1904 - 05 (same) 1904 - 06 (same) 1904 - 07 " 1381 " 1904 - 08 " 1379 " 1904 - 09 (same) 1904 - 10 " 1373 " 1904 - 11 " 1370 " 1904 - 12 " 1373 " 1905 - 01 " 1374 " 1905 - 02 " 1373 " 1905 - 03 (same) 1905 - 04 " 1376 " 1905 - 05 " 1375 " 1905 - 06 " 1371 " 1905 - 07 (same) 1905 - 08 " 1376 " 1905 - 09 " 1372 " 1905 - 10 " 1366 " 1905 - 11 " 1363 " 1905 - 12 " 1360 " 1906 - 01 " " 1906 - 02 " 1357 " 1906 - 03 " 1349 " 1906 - 04 " 1348 " 1906 - 05 " " 1906 - 06 " " 1906 - 07 " 1349 " 1906 - 08 " " 1906 - 09 " 1352 " 1906 - 10 " 1346 " 1906 - 11 " 1338 " 1906 - 12 " 1336 " 1907 - 01 " 1332 " 1907 - 02 " 1328 " 1907 - 03 " 1325 " 1907 - 04 " 1313 " 1907 - 05 " 1315 " 1907 - 06 " 1307 " 1907 - 07 " 1299 " 1907 - 08 " 1295 " 1907 - 09 " 1261 " 1907 - 10 (same) 1907 - 11 " 1164 " 1907 - 12 " 1136 " 1908 - 01 " 1107 " 1908 - 02 " 1105 " 1908 - 03 " 1085 " 1908 - 04 " 1079 " 1908 - 05 " 1075 " 1908 - 06 " 1071 " 1908 - 07 " 1065 " 1908 - 08 " 1053 " 1908 - 09 " 1046 " 1908 - 10 " 1038 " 1908 - 11 (same) 1908 - 12 " 1048 " 1909 - 01 " 1042 " 1909 - 02 " 1038 " 1909 - 03 " 1030 " 1909 - 04 " 1012 " 1909 - 05 " 1006 " 1909 - 06 " 989 " 1909 - 07 " 968 " 1909 - 08 " 960 " 1909 - 09 " 936 " 1909 - 10 " 926 " 1909 - 11 " 903 " 1909 - 12 " 871 " 1910 - 01 " 842 " 1910 - 02 " 827 " 1910 - 03 " 814 " 1910 - 04 " 810 " 1910 - 05 (same) 1910 - 06 " 770 " 1910 - 07 " 761 " 1910 - 08 " 752 " 1910 - 09 " 727 " 1910 - 10 " 703 " 1910 - 11 " 673 " 1910 - 12 " 657 " 1911 - 01 " 650 " 1911 - 02 " 640 " 1911 - 03 " 626 " 1911 - 04 " 615 " 1911 - 05 " 608 " 1911 - 06 " 592 " 1911 - 07 " 566 " 1911 - 08 " 552 " 1911 - 09 " 523 " 1911 - 10 " 500 " 1911 - 11 " 472 " 1911 - 12 " 455 " 1912 - 01 " 453 " 1912 - 02 " 448 " 1912 - 03 " 441 " 1912 - 04 " 432 " 1912 - 05 " 424 " 1912 - 06 " 415 " 1912 - 07 " 406 " 1912 - 08 " 395 " 1912 - 09 " 376 " 1912 - 10 " 370 " 1912 - 11 " 357 " 1912 - 12 " 340 " 1913 - 01 " 331 " 1913 - 02 " 321 " 1913 - 03 " 313 " 1913 - 04 " 302 " 1913 - 05 " 287 " 1913 - 06 " 266 " 1913 - 07 " 247 " 1913 - 08 " 229 " 1913 - 09 " 221 " 1913 - 10 " 213 " 1913 - 11 " 201 " 1913 - 12 " 193 " 1914 - 01 " 183 " 1914 - 02 " 162 " 1914 - 03 41100-42479 153 " 1914 - 04 " 139 " 1914 - 05 " 135 " 1914 - 06 " 131 " 1914 - 07 " 119 " 1914 - 08 " 108 " 1914 - 09 " 105 " 1914 - 10 " 87 " 1914 - 11 " 84 " 1914 - 12 (same) 1915 - 01 " 75 " 1915 - 02 " 71 " 1915 - 03 " 69 " 1915 - 04 " 67 " 1915 - 05 " 63 " 1915 - 06 " 62 " 1915 - 07 " 58 " 1915 - 08 (same) 1915 - 09 " 43 " 1915 - 10 (same) 1915 - 11 (same) 1915 - 12 " 42 " 1916 - 01 " 41 " 1916 - 02 " 20 " 1916 - 03 " 18 " 1916 - 04 (same) 1916 - 05 " 16 " 1916 - 06 (same) 1916 - 07 " 15 " 1916 - 08 (same) 1916 - 09 (same) 1916 - 10 " 14 " 1916 - 11 " 13 " 1916 - 12 (same) 1917 - 01 (same) 1917 - 02 (same) 1917 - 03 " 12 " 1917 - 04 " 9 " 1917 - 05 (same) 1917 - 06 (same) 1917 - 07 " 8 " 1917 - 08 (same) 1917 - 09 (same) 1917 - 10 " 7 " 1917 - 11 (same) 1917 - 12 " 8 " 1918 - 01 " 6 " 1918 - 02 " 4 " 1918 - 03 (same) 1918 - 04 (same) 1918 - 05 (same) 1918 - 06 (same) 1918 - 07 (same) 1918 - 08 (same) 1918 - 09 (same) 1918 - 10 " 3 " 1918 - 11 (same) 1918 - 12 (same) Note for the following, they listed the cars in 2 lines,
but both lines are the SAME dimensions1919 - 01 41189, 41235 2 " 42174 1 1919 - 02 (same) (both rows) 1919 - 03 41189 1 " 42174 1 1919 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1919 - 05 (same) (both rows) 1919 - 06 (same) (both rows) 1919 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1919 - 08 (same) (both rows) 1919 - 09 (same) (both rows) 1919 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1919 - 11 (same) (both rows) 1919 - 12 (same) (both rows) 1920 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1920 - 02 42174 1 " 1920 - 03 (same) 1920 - 04 Not listed
This series NEVER gets "*" indicating "Air Brakes" (1902-04 thru 1909-06)
- B&MRRHS 1900-1907 Freight Car Lettering Book No. 1 (Reprint of B&M lettering diagrams)
Note the "Book page number" below refers to the page number in the B&MRRHS book.
As the B&MRRHS book's pages are NOT numbered, "1" is the first page with an actual diagram! (NOT the title pages or index pages)
"U" = upper diagram on that page, "L" = lower diagramThe "Diagram number" refers to the circled number (lower right corner) in each diagram (the original page number)
Book page # 13 - L B&M Diagram # 25 Diagram Date 1907 Color on Diagram Brown Notes on Diagram Datum 1900 Index 1907 Index Class of car Box Car Box Car Length 34' 34' Capacity 40,000 40,000 Car Numbers 41100-42563 41100-42999 Page [original] 10 25
Volume number refers original book number
Page numbers refer to numbers on pages in original book, NOT to pages in PDF file(s)
Dates refer to first/last dates expenses were recorded in the acquisition book, NOT to car delivery dates
Vol Page Car Number(s) First
DateLast
DateBuilder $ / Car Notes 1 34 41493 1901-09 - ? $450 Bought Detrot[sic?] Rolling Stock Co., ex- B&L 8230 1 34 41632 1901-09 - ? $450 Bought Detrot[sic?] Rolling Stock Co., ex- B&L 8262 1 34 41292 1901-09 - ? $450 Bought Detrot[sic?] Rolling Stock Co., ex- B&L 8349
Source(s) ID Box Folder Folder name Link Title Approx.
Start dateApprox.
End dateA 2 1 Boxcars 40000 40200-46755 Box 1918? 1919?
Data Car Number Disposition
Source IDDate Built Disposition
DateDisposition New Car # 41189 A 1892-05 1919-12 to 3538 41235 A 1888-06 1919-01 to 3593
For more info on the ICC valuation data, see this web page
"Owning"
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DateBuilder Capy Underframe Body Notes Fitch 41100 F-4 25 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41102 F-4 26 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41107 F-4 27 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41112 F-4 28 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41117 F-4 29 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41145 F-4 30 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41147 F-4 31 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41152 F-4 32 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41157-41158 F-4 33 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41160 F-4 34 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41189 F-4 35 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41203 F-4 36 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41212 F-4 37 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41216 F-4 38 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41235-41237 F-4 39 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41239 F-4 40 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41252 F-4 41 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41274 F-4 42 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41276 F-4 43 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41324 F-4 44 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41327-41328 F-4 45 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41334 F-4 46 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41344 F-4 47 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41350 F-4 48 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41354 F-4 49 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41373-41374 F-4 50 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41389 F-4 51 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41409 F-4 52 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41411 F-4 53 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41422 F-4 54 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41425-41426 F-4 55 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41429 F-4 56 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41435 F-4 57 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41437 F-4 58 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41455 F-4 59 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41459-41460 F-4 60 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41462 F-4 61 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41469 F-4 62 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41484-41485 F-4 63 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41489 F-4 64 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41504 F-4 65 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41508 F-4 66 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41518 F-4 67 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41524 F-4 68 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41528 F-4 69 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41542 F-4 70 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41552 F-4 71 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41554 F-4 72 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41568 F-4 73 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41582 F-4 74 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41598 F-4 75 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41609 F-4 76 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41642 F-4 77 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41646 F-4 78 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41720 F-4 79 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41739 F-4 80 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41747 F-4 81 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41757 F-4 82 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41776 F-4 83 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41786 F-4 84 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41822 F-4 85 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41876 F-4 86 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41879-41880 F-4 87 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41901 F-4 88 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41919 F-4 89 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41924 F-4 90 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41939 F-4 91 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41943 F-4 92 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41945 F-4 93 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 41954 F-4 94 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42003 F-4 95 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42005 F-4 96 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42021 F-4 97 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42045 F-4 98 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42058 F-4 99 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42117 F-4 100 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42144 F-4 101 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42174 F-4 102 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42195 F-4 103 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42229 F-4 104 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42239 F-4 105 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42268 F-4 106 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42290 F-4 107 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42309 F-4 108 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42319-42320 F-4 109 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42337 F-4 110 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42342 F-4 111 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42347 F-4 112 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42382 F-4 113 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42427 F-4 114 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42459 F-4 115 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42470 F-4 116 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood Fitch 42479 F-4 117 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Page Car # Photo Date
yr-mo-dayVisible? Markings Paint
SchemeHerald Notes B&MRRHS Bulletin Issue included in "page" column vIV #3 p26b 41832 1903-03-07 p S1& R R N door and left half of car only. "Air brake" in circle
possibly another 41xxx car is third in stringNimke, R.W. Connecticut River Railroads and Connections Volume I: Greenfield-East Deerfield-Westminster Sharp Offset Printing, 1991. ISBN 0-914960-91-3 p103 top 41150 X S1& R R N has "Air brake" in circle Nimke, R.W. Connecticut River Railroads and Connections Volume V: Bellows Falls to Wells River Sharp Offset Printing, 1993. ISBN 0-914960-95-4 p34 top 41753? 1913 p p S1& R R N Quite a bit of sag in end of car (or Photo issue?)
File History for THIS page Date Who Description 08-Dec-2019 KG Akerboom Initial release 30-Mar-2020 KG Akerboom Fixed 3/1905 data 04-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Re-did references/photos section 05-May-2020 KG Akerboom Moved ORER notes into separate section 16-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 4 more ORERs (1911,1919,1921,1931) 28-May-2020 KG Akerboom updated 10/1919 21-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom "Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns 07- thru
16-Aug-2020KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid 10-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Added E. Neubauer ORER data (car counts only, 15 issues) 17-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Added Car Book Data 27-Jan-2021 KG Akerboom Added info from "1900-1907 Freight Car Lettering Diagrams" book 10-Apr-2021 KG Akerboom Added info from 47 more ORERs 1903 thru 1917 04-Jul-2021 KG Akerboom Reorganized Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data (Car # to 1st column, 2nd/other changes to new rows) 26-Oct-2021 KG Akerboom Added car disposition record data 22-Jan-2022 KG Akerboom Added ICC Valuation data 04-Dec-2022 KG Akerboom Added photo(s)/car listings from Nimke, "Conn. River RRs: Vol I" 11-Dec-2022 KG Akerboom Added photo(s)/car listings from Nimke, "Conn. River RRs: Vol V" 04-Jan-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed headers and footers...hopefully 25-Feb-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed link to scanned data (car books) 04-Mar-2023 KG Akerboom Updated ORER data with (almost) complete data 27-May-2023 KG Akerboom Back-filled 1900 data
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