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Boston & Maine 81000 Series Gondola Cars

Index

• Builder's Photo
• Classification Card(s) for series
• Specifications
• ORER data
• ORER Notes
• Discussion, General Notes
• Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data
• ICC Valuation Data
• Paint Schemes
• References
• Photographs
• Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions
• Modeling
• Revision History of this page

Builder's Photo

Does one exist?

B&M Classification Card(s)

For more info on the classification cards and "webitizing" them, see this web page

From 1942 class book.

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From 1955 class book.

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Specifications From Classification Cards

Spec	Value
Builder	Pressed Steel Car Co.
Lot #	37
Spec #	250-A
Car Numbers	81000-81499
Quantity	500
Build Date	1913-1914
AAR class	GS
Lt Weight	40,300 (approx)
Cubic Cap'y	1,639 Cu. Ft.
Sides	7 ribs (per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37)
Stake Pockets	16 per side, inside, fixed
Door Operating Gear	"Creeping Shaft"
Trucks	Arch Bar drawing 11969 [drawing number may be of wheels?]
Journals	5½" x 10" (100,000 lbs nominal capacity)
Wheels	Rolled Steel
Springs	ARA class D
Air Brake	KC 1012
Side Bearings	60" center to center
Center Plates	ARA Contour
Coupler	5" x 7" shanks, 6½" butts
Draft Gear	Miner Friction class A-1, keyed yoke
Brake Beam	Creco #2
Angle-cock holders	Railway Devices Co.

Per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #37, spotting difference is that on the 80000 series, the bottoms of the 7 ribs are "uneven", whereas the 81000 series were "even"

ORER data and numbers

ORER Size Data

Description			2/1914	11/1914	10/1919	11/1929	10/1930	11/1930	7/1935
M.C.B. / AAR Mechanical Designation				GA	GS	GS	GS	GS	GS
Inside Dimensions	Length		40'	40'	40'	40'	40'	40'	40'
	Width		9'-5½"	9'-5½"	9'-5½"	9'-5½"	9'-5"	9'-5"	9'-5"
	Height		4'-4"	4'-4"	4'-4"	4'-4"	4'-4"	4'-4"	4'-4"
Outside Dimensions	Length		41'-6½"	41'-6½"	41'-6½"	41'-6½"	41'-6"	41'-7"	41'-7"
	Width	At Eaves or top of sides or platform	10'-1"	10'-1"	10'-1"	10'-1"	10'-1"	10'-1"	10'-1"
		Extreme Width							10'-1"
	Height from Rail	To Extreme Width
		To Eaves or top of sides or platform							8'-2"
		To Top of platform or Running Board	3'-9½"	3'-9½"	3'-9½"	3'-9½"	3'-9"	3'-10"
		To Extreme Height	8'-9"	8'-9"	8'-9"	8'-9"	8'-9"	8'-9"	8'-9"
Door - Side opening	Width
	Height
Capacity	Cu Ft. Level Full		1639	1639	1639	1639	1639	1639	1639
	Pounds		100000	100000	100000	80000	100000	100000	100000

ORER History

ORER Date (Year-Mo.)	Car Numbers	# of Cars	Description
1914 - 02	81000-81499	…	Coal, Drop Bottom
1914 - 03	"	357	"
1914 - 04	"	500	"
1914 - 05	(same)
1914 - 06	(same)
1914 - 07	(same)
1914 - 08	(same)
1914 - 09	(same)
1914 - 10	(same)
1914 - 11	(same)
1914 - 12	(same)
1915 - 01	(same)
1915 - 02	(same)
1915 - 03	(same)
1915 - 04	(same)
1915 - 05	(same)
1915 - 06	(same)
1915 - 07	(same)
1915 - 08	(same)
1915 - 09	(same)
1915 - 10	(same)
1915 - 11	(same)
1915 - 12	(same)
1916 - 01	(same)
1916 - 02	(same)
1916 - 03	(same)
1916 - 04	(same)
1916 - 05	(same)
1916 - 06	(same)
1916 - 07	"	499	"
1916 - 08	(same)
1916 - 09	(same)
1916 - 10	(same)
1916 - 11	"	498	"
1916 - 12	"	497	"
1917 - 01	(same)
1917 - 02	(same)
1917 - 03	(same)
1917 - 04	(same)
1917 - 05	(same)
1917 - 06	(same)
1917 - 07	(same)
1917 - 08	(same)
1917 - 09	(same)
1917 - 10	(same)
1917 - 11	(same)
1917 - 12	(same)
1918 - 01	(same)
1918 - 02	(same)
1918 - 03	(same)
1918 - 04	(same)
1918 - 05	(same)
1918 - 06	(same)
1918 - 07	(same)
1918 - 08	"	496	"
1918 - 09	"	495	"
1918 - 10	(same)
1918 - 11	(same)
1918 - 12	(same)
1919 - 01	(same)
1919 - 02	(same)
1919 - 03	(same)
1919 - 04	(same)
1919 - 05	(same)
1919 - 06	(same)
1919 - 07	(same)
1919 - 08	(same)
1919 - 09	(same)
1919 - 10	(same)
1919 - 11	(same)
1919 - 12	(same)
1920 - 01	(same)
1920 - 02	(same)
1920 - 03	(same)
1920 - 04	(same)
1920 - 05	(same)
1920 - 06	(same)
1920 - 07	(same)
1920 - 08	(same)
1920 - 09	(same)
1920 - 10	(same)
1920 - 11	(same)
1920 - 12	(same)
1921 - 01	(same)
1921 - 02	(same)
1921 - 03	"	494	"
1921 - 04	(same)
1921 - 05	(same)
1921 - 06	(same)
1921 - 07	(same)
1921 - 08	(same)
1921 - 09	(same)
1921 - 10	(same)
1921 - 11	(same)
1921 - 12	(same)
1922 - 01	(same)
1922 - 02	(same)
1922 - 03	(same)
1922 - 04	(same)
1922 - 05	(same)
1922 - 06	(same)
1922 - 07	(same)
1922 - 08	(same)
1922 - 09	(same)
1922 - 10	(same)
1922 - 11	(same)
1922 - 12	(same)
1923 - 01	(same)
1923 - 02	(same)
1923 - 03	(same)
1923 - 04	(same)
1923 - 05	(same)
1923 - 06	(same)
1923 - 07	(same)
1923 - 08	(same)
1923 - 09	(same)
1923 - 10	(same)
1923 - 11	(same)
1923 - 12	(same)
1924 - 01	"	493	"
1924 - 02	(same)
1924 - 03	(same)
1924 - 04	"	492	"
1924 - 05	(same)
1924 - 06	(same)
1924 - 07	(same)
1924 - 08	(same)
1924 - 09	(same)
1924 - 10	(same)
1924 - 11	(same)
1924 - 12	(same)
1925 - 01	(same)
1925 - 02	"	490	"
1925 - 03	(same)
1925 - 04	(same)
1925 - 05	(same)
1925 - 06	(same)
1925 - 07	(same)
1925 - 08	(same)
1925 - 09	(same)
1925 - 10	(same)
1925 - 11	(same)
1925 - 12	(same)
1926 - 01	(same)
1926 - 02	(same)
1926 - 03	(same)
1926 - 04	(same)
1926 - 05	(same)
1926 - 06	(same)
1926 - 07	(same)
1926 - 08	(same)
1926 - 09	(same)
1926 - 10	(same)
1926 - 11	(same)
1926 - 12	(same)
1927 - 01	(same)
1927 - 02	(same)
1927 - 03	"	489	"
1927 - 04	"	488	"
1927 - 05	(same)
B&M and MTC cars listed separately
1927 - 06
	1927 - 07	(same) (both rows)
1927 - 08	(same) (both rows)
1927 - 09	B&M 81000-81499	477	"
	MTC 81000-81499	…
1927 - 10	B&M 81000-81499	467	"
	MTC 81000-81499	21
1927 - 11	B&M 81000-81499	463	"
	MTC 81000-81499	25
1927 - 12	(same) (both rows)
1928 - 01	(same) (both rows)
1928 - 02	(same) (both rows)
1928 - 03	(same) (both rows)
1928 - 04	B&M 81000-81499	462	"
	MTC 81000-81499	25
1928 - 05	(same) (both rows)
1928 - 06	(same) (both rows)
1928 - 07	(same) (both rows)
1928 - 08	(same) (both rows)
1928 - 09	(same) (both rows)
1928 - 10	B&M 81000-81499	460	"
	MTC 81000-81499	25
1928 - 11	(same) (both rows)
1928 - 12	(same) (both rows)
1929 - 01	(same) (both rows)
1929 - 02	(same) (both rows)
1929 - 03	(same) (both rows)
1929 - 04	(same) (both rows)
1929 - 05	(same) (both rows)
1929 - 06	(same) (both rows)
1929 - 07	(same) (both rows)?
100 cars converted to pulpwood loading, series 29000-29099 (see that series)
1929 - 08	B&M 81000-81499	415	"
	MTC 81000-81499	25
1929 - 09	B&M 81000-81499	359	"
	MTC 81000-81499	25
1929 - 10	(same) (both rows)
1929 - 11	B&M 81000-81499	359	Coal, Drop Bottom (Note A)
	MTC 81000-81499	25	Coal, Drop Bottom (Note A)
1929 - 12	(same) (both rows) (including note A)
1930 - 01	(same) (both rows) (including note A)
1930 - 02	(same) (both rows) (including note A)
1930 - 03	(same) (both rows) (including note A)
1930 - 04	B&M 81000-81499	351	" (including note A)
	MTC 81000-81499	25
1930 - 05	(same) (both rows) (including note A)
1930 - 06	B&M 81000-81499	347	" (including note A)
	MTC 81000-81499	25
1930 - 07	(same) (both rows) (including note A)
1930 - 08	(same) (both rows) (including note A)
1930 - 09	(same) (both rows) (including note A)
1930 - 10	(same) (both rows) (Note A removed)
1930 - 11	(same) (both rows)
1930 - 12	(same) (both rows)
1931 - 01	(same) (both rows)
1931 - 02	B&M 81000-81499	348	Coal, Drop Bottom
	MTC 81000-81499	24
1931 - 03	(same) (both rows)
1931 - 04	(same) (both rows)
1931 - 05	(same) (both rows)
1931 - 06	(same) (both rows)
1931 - 07	(same) (both rows)
1931 - 08	(same) (both rows)
1931 - 09	(same) (both rows)
1931 - 10	(same) (both rows)
1931 - 11	(same) (both rows)
1931 - 12	(same) (both rows)
1932 - 01	(same) (both rows)
1932 - 02	(same) (both rows)
1932 - 03	(same) (both rows)
1932 - 04	(same) (both rows)
1932 - 05	(same) (both rows)
1932 - 06	(same) (both rows)
Switch to Bi-monthly
1932 - 07	(same) (both rows)
1932 - 09	[no changes noted]
1932 - 11	[no changes noted]
1933 - 01	[no changes noted]
1933 - 03	[no changes noted]
1933 - 05	[no changes noted]
B&M and MTC combined under B&M
1933 - 07	81000-81499	372	"
1933 - 09	[no changes noted]
1933 - 11	[no changes noted]
1934 - 01	[no changes noted]
1934 - 03	[no changes noted]
1934 - 05	[no changes noted]
1934 - 07	81000-81499	374	"
1934 - 09	[no changes noted]
1934 - 11	[no changes noted]
1935 - 01	[no changes noted]
1935 - 03	[no changes noted]
1935 - 05	[no changes noted]
1935 - 07	"	334	"
1935 - 09	[no changes noted]
1935 - 11	[no changes noted]
1936 - 01	[no changes noted]
1936 - 03	[no changes noted]
1936 - 05	[no changes noted]
1936 - 07	"	310	"
1936 - 09	[no changes noted]
1936 - 11	[no changes noted]
1937 - 01	[no changes noted]
1937 - 03	[no changes noted]
1937 - 05	[no changes noted]
Switch to Quarterly
1937 - 07	"	187	"
1937 - 10	"	171	"
1938 - 01	"	154	"
1938 - 04	"	153	"
1938 - 07	"	135	"
1938 - 10	"	134	"
1939 - 01	"	124	"
1939 - 04	"	97	"
1939 - 07	81004-81491	86	"
1939 - 10	"	75	"
1940 - 01	"	49	"
1940 - 04	"	35	"
1940 - 07	Original gondola series (81000-81499) not listed, pulpwood cars continue
…
1949 - 10	29000-29099 pulpwood cars not listed

ORER Notes

• Note "A" (1929-11 thru 1930-09)

  Cars in these series which are stencilled 100,000 pounds capacity are being re-stencilled 80,000 pounds capacity

  Note after the note was removed, the capacity of these cars returned to 100,000 lbs

Discussion, General Notes

• Drop bottom all-steel gondola
• Per Tim Gilbert

  With 5½" x 10" journals, the "pre-1925" effective maximum load limit the #81000-81499 series could carry was 55 tons, which was a much better match between cubic capacity and weight of a coal load than the #80000s could achieve. Given the 40,300 pount "light weight" with the larger truck journals, many car owners would have opted to make the "nominal capacity" 55 tons. This election, in turn, would raise the effective "pre-1925" load limit from 110,000 pounds to 121,000. This would have been allowed because the calculated load limit (128,700 pounds) was more than 55 tons x 110%. The relevance of opting for a non-standard "nominal capacity" became moot after the adoption of the 1925 stenciling requirements. Anyway, in the case of the #81000, the B&M opted for the standard 50 ton nominal capacity.

  Inside height of the the #81000s was 4'-4" which was distinguishing difference in the side view from the #80000 series. Their 16 inside stake pockets per side made them better candidates for conversion to pulpwood racks (see series 29000-29099) in 1929 than their older cousins.

  Both the #80000 and 81000 seres may have been retired a bit prematurely because of good terms offered to finance the construction in 1936 of the #92000-92749 series of 41'-6" gons which provided Bethlehem Steel some business during the Depression. Both series had arch bar trucks which the ICC was banning from interchange service in the late 1930s.

• Per Railway Age (Aug 13, 1927, p291) and/or B&MRRHS Newsletter (Nov-Dec 2000 issue, p6)

  [at least] 25 cars in this series had MTC (rather than B&M) reporting marks [random #s]

Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data

Acquisition Books (1898 - 1917 only)

Volume number refers original book number
Page numbers refer to numbers on pages in original book, NOT to pages in PDF file(s)
Dates refer to first/last dates expenses were recorded in the acquisition book, NOT to car delivery dates

Car Number(s)	Vol	Page	First Date	Last Date	Builder	$ / Car	Notes
81000-81499	2	83	1913-12	1915-05	Pressed Steel Car Co	$1002	McKees Rocks, PA

Car Books (1923-06 thru 1936-10, then 1944-05 thru 1960-03)

Volume number refers original book number
Part number refers to PDF file part as posted on B&MRRHS site
Page numbers refer to pages in PDF file(s) (L/R = Left or Right side of that PDF page)

Car Number(s)	Vol	Part	Page	Date	Action	Location	New #	Notes
81071	2	2	2	1936-07-27	Destroyed			[see also car disposition data below]
81142	1	4	7	1927-01-18	Destroyed	Billerica		in wreck at Manchester, NH
81196	2	2	2	1936-07-27	Destroyed			[see also car disposition data below]
81214	2	1	7	1936-03-28	Destroyed	Concord		Car collapsed while being loaded w/ ballast near gas house bridge [see also car disposition data below]
81243	2	1	4	1934-02-08	Destroyed			[see also car disposition data below]
81297	2	1	4	1934-02-14	Destroyed			[see also car disposition data below]
81337	2	1	5	1934-03-23	Destroyed			[see also car disposition data below]
81393	1	4	7	1927-01-18	Destroyed	Billerica		in wreck at Manchester, NH

Car Disposition Records

Source(s) (ID scope is for this web page only)
ID	Box	Folder	Folder name	Link Title	Approx. Start date	Approx. End date
A1	2	6	Boxcars [sic]	81000 series gondolas "A" - part 1	1926?	1940-03?
A2	2	6	Boxcars [sic]	81000 series gondolas "A" - part 2

Data
Car Number	Disposition Source ID	Date Built	Disposition Date	Disposition	New Car #
81000	A1	1913-12	1938-03	Retired
81001	A1	1913-12	1929-06	to	29038
81002	A1	1913-12	1938-09	Retired
81003	A1	1913-12	1936-06	Retired
81004	A1	1913-12	1940-02	to	X81004
81005	A1	1913-12	1936-01	Retired
81006	A1	1913-12	1940-02	to	X81006
81007	A1	1913-12	1940-02	to	X81007
81008	A1	1913-12	1929-06	to	29008
81009	A1	1913-12	1938-11	Retired
81010	A1	1913-12	1936-08	Retired
81011	A1	1913-12	1936-06	Retired
81012	A1	1913-12	1938-11	Retired
81013	A1	1913-12	1937-03	Retired
81014	A1	1913-12	1936-06	Retired
81015	A1	1913-12	1937-03	Retired
81016	A1	1913-12	1937-06	Retired
81017	A1	1913-12	1939-06	Retired
81018	A1	1913-12	1939-02	Retired
81019	A1	1913-12	1935-08	Retired
81020	A1	1913-12	1929-06	to	29048
81021	A1	1913-12	1935-02	Retired
81022	A1	1913-12	1935-02	Retired
81023	[not listed in "A1", presumed retired before list created]
81024	A1	1913-12	1937-03	Retired
81025	A1	1913-12	1935-02	Retired
81026	A1	1913-12	1939-08	Retired
81027	A1	1913-12	1936-09	Retired
81028	A1	1913-12	1936-09	Retired
81029	A1	1913-12	1939-08	Retired
81030	A1	1913-12	1939-12	Retired
81031	A1	1913-12	1936-06	Retired
81032	A1	1913-12	1938-03	Retired
81033	[not listed in "A1", presumed retired before list created]
81034	A1	1914-01	1938-03	Retired
81035	A1	1914-01	1936-08	Retired
81036	A1	1914-01	1940-02	to	X81036
81037	A1	1914-01	1937-09	Retired
81038	A1	1914-01	1936-12	Retired
81039	A1	1914-01	1936-06	Retired
81040	A1	1914-01	1929-06	to	29045
81041	A1	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81042	A1	1914-01	1940-02	to	X81042
81043	A1	1914-01	1936-07	Retired
81044	A1	1914-01	1939-11	Retired
81045	A1	1914-01	1936-07	Retired
81046	A1	1914-01	1929-06	to	29074
81047	A1	1914-01	1936-07	Retired
81048	A1	1914-01	1938-11	Retired
81049	A1	1914-01	1937-08	Retired
81050	A1	1914-01	1939-12	Retired
81051	A1	1914-01	1937-06	Retired
MTC 81052	A1	1914-01	1936-09	Retired
81053	A1	1914-01	1929-07	to	29099
81054	A1	1914-01	1936-09	Retired
81055	A1	1914-01	1936-09	Retired
81056	A1	1914-01	1938-11	Retired
81057	A1	1914-01	1929-06	to	29020
81058	A1	1914-01	1940-03	to	X81058
81059	A1	1914-01	1938-03	Retired
81060	A1	1914-01	1938-03	Retired
81061	A1	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81062	A1	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81063	A1	1914-01	1939-08	Retired
81064	A1	1914-01	1936-12	Retired
81065	A1	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81066	A1	1914-01	1936-08	Retired
81067	A1	1914-01	1938-07	Retired
81068	A1	1914-01	1937-03	Retired
81069	A1	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81070	A1	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81071	A1	1914-01	1936-07	Retired [See also car book data above]
81072	A1	1914-01	1936-09	Retired
81073	A1	1914-01	1937-05	Retired
81074	A1	1914-01	1937-08	Retired
81075	A1	1914-01	1918-06	Destroyed
81076	A1	1914-01	1929-06	to	29081
81077	A1	1914-01	1929-06	to	29059
81078	A1	1914-01	1930-02	to	0848
81079	A1	1914-01	1936-08	Retired
81080	A1	1914-01	1938-11	Retired
81081	A1	1914-01	1929-06	to	29050
81082	A1	1914-01	1938-11	Retired
81083	A1	1914-01	1929-06	to	29090
81084	A1	1914-01	1936-12	Retired
81085	A1	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81086	A1	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81087	A1	1914-01	1938-12	Retired
81088	A1	1914-01	1936-06	Retired
81089	A1	1914-01	1929-06	to	29022
81090	A1	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81091	A1	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81092	A1	1914-01	1936-08	Retired
81093	A1	1914-01	1937-05	Retired
81094	[not listed in "A1", presumed retired before list created]
81095	A1	1914-01	1939-12	Retired
81096	A1	1914-01	1936-09	Retired
81097	A1	1914-01	1938-09	Retired
81098	A1	1914-01	1936-12	Retired
MTC 81099	A1	1914-01	1936-12	Retired
81100	A1	1914-01	1929-06	to	29000
81101	A1	1914-01	1939-08	Retired
81102	A1	1914-01	1936-08	Retired
81103	A1	1914-01	1929-06	to	29034
MTC 81104	A1	1914-01	1937-09	Retired
81105	A1	1914-01	1936-07	Retired
81106	A1	1914-01	1939-04	Retired
81107	A1	1914-01	1938-12	Retired
81108	A1	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
MTC 81109	A1	1914-01	1938-11	Retired
81110	A1	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81111	A1	1914-01	1939-08	Retired
81112	A1	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81113	A1	1914-01	1940-02	to	X81113
81114	[not listed in "A1", presumed retired before list created]
81115	A1	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81116	A1	1914-01	1936-07	Retired
81117	A1	1914-01	1937-05	Retired
81118	A1	1914-01	1934-09	Destroyed
81119	A1	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81120	A1	1914-01	1936-07	Retired
81121	A1	1914-01	1939-11	Retired
81122	A1	1914-01	1934-11	Destroyed
81123	A1	1914-01	1929-06	to	29024
81124	A1	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
MTC 81125	A1	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81126	A1	1914-01	1929-06	to	29039
81127	[not listed in "A1", presumed retired before list created]
81128	A1	1914-01	1939-08	Retired
81129	A1	1914-01	1930-02	to	0850
81130	A1	1914-01	1938-03	Retired
81131	A1	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81132	A1	1914-01	1929-06	to	29056
81133	A1	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81134	A1	1914-01	1930-04	to	M0855
81135	A1	1914-01	1937-08	Retired
81136	A1	1914-01	1939-08	Retired
81137	A1	1914-01	1936-09	Retired
81138	A1	1914-01	1929-06	to	29051
81139	A2	1914-01	1939-11	Retired
81140	A2	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81141	A2	1914-01	1937-08	Retired
81142	[See car book data above]
81143	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29082
MTC 81144	A2	1914-01	1939-01	Retired
81145	A2	1914-01	1937-08	Retired
81146	A2	1914-01	1936-11	Retired
81147	A2	1914-01	1936-04	Retired
81148	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29052
81149	A2	1914-01	1930-04	to	M0854
81150	A2	1914-01	1938-03	Retired
81151	A2	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81152	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29011
81153	A2	1914-01	1938-12	Retired
81154	A2	1914-01	1939-12	Retired
81155	A2	1914-01	1939-12	Retired
81156	A2	1914-01	1938-03	Retired
81157	A2	1914-01	1936-06	Retired
81158	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29067
81159	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29069
81160	A2	1914-01	1937-08	Retired
81161	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29013
81162	A2	1914-01	1940-02	to	X81162
81163	A2	1914-01	1937-05	Retired
81164	A2	1914-01	1940-02	to	X81164
81165	A2	1914-01	1936-05	Retired
81166	A2	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81167	A2	1914-01	1939-08	Retired
81168	A2	1914-01	1936-12	Retired
81169	A2	1914-01	1936-09	Retired
81170	A2	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81171	A2	1914-01	1938-03	Retired
81172	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29073
81173	A2	1914-01	1938-03	Retired
81174	A2	1914-01	1936-01	Retired
81175	A2	1914-01	1917-04	Retired
81176	A2	1914-01	1940-02	to	X81126
81177	A2	1914-01	1937-06	Retired
81178	A2	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81179	A2	1914-01	1939-06	Retired
81180	A2	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81181	A2	1914-01	1940-02	to	X81181
81182	A2	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81183	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29057
81184	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29035
81185	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29040
81186	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29004
81187	A2	1914-01	1937-06	Retired
MTC 81188	A2	1914-01	1939-06	Retired
81189	A2	1914-01	1929-07	to	29094
81190	A2	1914-01	1940-03	to	W0272
81191	A2	1914-01	1937-03	Retired
81192	A2	1914-01	1936-06	Retired
MTC 81193	A2	1914-01	1938-11	Retired
81194	A2	1914-01	1937-08	Retired
81195	A2	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81196	A2	1914-01	1936-07	Retired [See also car book data above]
81197	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29009
81198	A2	1914-01	1940-03	Retired
81199	A2	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81200	A2	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81201	A2	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81202	A2	1914-01	1939-10	Retired
81203	A2	1914-01	1940-03	to	X81203
81204	A2	1914-01	1929-07	to	29093
81205	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29083
81206	A2	1914-01	1938-11	Retired
81207	A2	1914-01	1938-11	Retired
81208	A2	1914-01	1940-03	to	W0281
81209	A2	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81210	A2	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81211	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29085
81212	A2	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81213	A2	1914-01	1937-03	Retired
81214	A2	1914-01	1936-04	Retired [See also car book data above]
81215	A2	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81216	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29072
81217	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29065
81218	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29007
81219	A2	1914-01	1936-12	Retired
81220	A2	1914-01	1937-03	Retired
81221	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29087
MTC 81222	A2	1914-01	1939-06	Retired
81223	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29047
81224	A2	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81225	A2	1914-01	1939-12	Retired
81226	A2	1914-01	1937-03	Retired
81227	A2	1914-01	1936-12	Retired
81228	A2	1914-01	1939-02	Retired
81229	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29021
81230	A2	1914-01	1937-03	Retired
81231	A2	1914-01	1938-03	Retired
81232	A2	1914-01	1940-02	to	X81232
81233	A2	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81234	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29029
81235	A2	1914-01	1939-02	Retired
81236	A2	1914-01	1930-04	to	M0852
81237	A2	1914-01	1937-03	Retired
MTC 81238	A2	1914-01	1938-11	Retired
81239	A2	1914-01	1940-02	to	X81239
81240	A2	1914-01	1939-04	Retired
81241	A2	1914-01	1937-03	Retired
81242	A2	1914-01	1937-03	Retired
81243	A2	1914-01	1934-01	Retired [See also car book data above]
81244	A2	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81245	A2	1914-01	1936-09	Retired
81246	A2	1914-01	1937-07	Retired
81247	A2	1914-01	1939-04	Retired
81248	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29015
MTC 81249	A2	1914-01	1938-11	Retired
81250	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29068
81251	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29041
81252	A2	1914-01	1938-11	Retired
81253	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29028
81254	A2	1914-01	1936-09	Retired
81255	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29033
81256	A2	1914-01	1930-04	to	M0853
81257	A2	1914-01	1936-09	Retired
81258	A2	1914-01	1936-09	Retired
81259	A2	1914-01	1939-11	Retired
81260	A2	1914-01	1936-07	Retired
81261	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29080
81262	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29001
81263	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29002
81264	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29046
81265	A2	1914-01	1928-08	Destroyed
81266	A2	1914-01	1938-03	Retired
81267	A2	1914-01	1939-08	Retired
81268	A2	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81269	A2	1914-01	1937-11	Retired
81270	A2	1914-01	1937-09	Retired
81271	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29037
81272	A2	1914-01	1938-03	Retired
81273	A2	1914-01	1937-03	Retired
81274	A2	1914-01	1939-08	Retired
81275	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29061
MTC 81276	A2	1914-01	1939-11	Retired
81277	A2	1914-01	1938-03	Retired
81278	A2	1914-01	1939-08	Retired
81279	A2	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81280	A2	1914-01	1935-06	to	0280
81281	A2	1914-01	1929-07	to	29098
81282	A2	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81283	A2	1914-01	1937-07	Retired
MTC 81284	A2	1914-01	1940-03	to	X81284
81285	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29070
81286	A2	1914-01	1939-10	Retired
81287	A2	1914-01	1929-07	to	29091
81288	A2	1914-01	1938-11	Retired
81289	A2	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81290	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29088
81291	A2	1914-01	1938-11	Retired
81292	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29012
81293	[not listed in "A2", presumed retired before list created]
81294	A2	1914-01	1937-09	Retired
81295	A2	1914-01	1937-02	Retired
81296	A2	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81297	A2	1914-01	1934-01	Retired [See also car book data above]
81298	A2	1914-01	1939-08	Retired
81299	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29005
81300	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29086
81301	A2	1914-01	1930-02	to	0846
81302	A2	1914-01	1940-03	to	W0231
81303	A2	1914-01	1936-11	Retired
81304	A2	1914-01	1937-09	Retired
81305	A2	1914-01	1936-08	Retired
81306	A2	1914-01	1939-06	Retired
81307	A2	1914-01	1940-03	to	X81307
81308	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29066
81309	A2	1914-01	1936-11	Retired
81310	A2	1914-01	1930-02	to	0851
81311	A2	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81312	A2	1914-01	1936-09	Retired
81313	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29084
81314	A2	1914-01	1929-07	Destroyed
81315	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29031
81316	A2	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81317	A2	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81318	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29026
81319	A2	1914-01	1938-11	Retired
MTC 81320	A2	1914-01	1936-12	Retired
81321	A2	1914-01	1940-02	to	X81321
81322	A2	1914-01	1939-09	Retired
81323	A2	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81324	A2	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81325	A2	1914-01	1938-12	Retired
81326	A2	1914-01	1940-02	to	X81326
81327	A2	1914-01	1940-03	Retired
81328	A2	1914-01	1937-03	Retired
81329	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29023
81330	A2	1914-01	1929-07	to	29097
81331	A2	1914-01	1938-11	Retired
81332	A2	1914-01	1940-03	to	X81332
81333	A2	1914-01	1939-04	Retired
81334	A2	1914-01	1939-10	Retired
81335	A2	1914-01	1939-07	Retired
81336	A2	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81337	A2	1914-01	1934-01	Retired [See also car book data above]
81338	A2	1914-01	1939-08	Retired
81339	A2	1914-01	1937-09	Retired
81340	A2	1914-01	1939-08	Retired
81341	A2	1914-01	1940-02	to	X81341
MTC 81342	A2	1914-01	1939-06	Retired
81343	A2	1914-01	1939-03	Retired
81344	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29043
81345	A2	1914-01	1936-12	Retired
81346	A2	1914-01	1936-07	Retired
81347	A2	1914-01	1928-02	Destroyed
81348	A2	1914-01	1936-09	Retired
81349	A2	1914-01	1940-02	to	X81349
81350	A2	1914-01	1939-06	Retired
MTC 81351	A2	1914-01	1938-11	Retired
MTC 81352	A2	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81353	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29016
MTC 81354	A2	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81355	A2	1914-01	1936-02	Retired
81356	A2	1914-01	1937-08	Retired
81357	A2	1914-01	1936-11	Retired
81358	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29077
81359	A2	1914-01	1938-08	Retired
81360	A2	1914-01	1939-08	Retired
81361	A2	1914-01	1939-08	Retired
81362	A2	1914-01	1938-03	Retired
81363	A2	1914-01	1938-03	Retired
81364	A2	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81365	A2	1914-01	1937-03	Retired
81366	A2	1914-01	1930-02	to	0849
81367	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29044
81368	A2	1914-01	1936-06	Retired
81369	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29055
81370	A2	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81371	A2	1914-01	1937-06	Retired
81372	A2	1914-01	1939-03	Retired
81373	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29062
				In service
			1937-04	Retired
81374	A2	1914-01	1936-06	Retired
81375	A2	1914-01	1929-07	to	29092
81376	A2	1914-01	1936-08	Retired
81377	A2	1914-01	1937-07	Retired
81378	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29062
81379	A2	1914-01	1937-10	Retired
81380	A2	1914-01	1938-12	Retired
81381	A2	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81382	A2	1914-01	1936-08	Retired
81383	A2	1914-01	1939-08	Retired
81384	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29003
81385	A2	1914-01	1936-11	Retired
81386	A2	1914-01	1939-06	Retired
81387	A2	1914-01	1929-07	to	29096
81388	A2	1914-01	1935-08	Retired
81389	A2	1914-01	1937-02	Retired
81390	[not listed in "A2", presumed retired before list created]
81391	A2	1914-01	1936-09	Retired
81392	A2	1914-01	1938-04	Retired
81393	[See car book data above]
81394	A2	1914-01	1934-04	Retired
81395	A2	1914-01	1934-01	Retired
81396	A2	1914-01	1936-06	Retired
81397	A2	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81398	A2	1914-01	1940-03	to	X81398
81399	A2	1914-01	1940-02	to	X81399
81400	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29079
MTC 81401	A2	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81402	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29036
81403	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29058
81404	A2	1914-01	1930-02	to	0844
81405	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29042
81406	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29049
81407	A2	1914-01	1939-08	Retired
MTC 81408	A2	1914-01	1938-11	Retired
81409	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29014
81410	A2	1914-01	1936-09	Retired
81411	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29078
MTC 81412	A2	1914-01	1937-03	Retired
81413	A2	1914-01	1939-12	Retired
81414	A2	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81415	A2	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81416	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29027
81417	A2	1914-01	1939-06	Retired
81418	A2	1914-01	1938-09	Retired
81419	A2	1914-01	1940-03	to	X81419
81420	A2	1914-01	1939-11	Retired
81421	A2	1914-01	1938-11	Retired
81422	A2	1914-01	1937-05	Retired
81423	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29006
81424	A2	1914-01	1937-08	Retired
81425	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29076
81426	A2	1914-01	1936-11	Retired
81427	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29063
81428	A2	1914-01	1936-08	Retired
81429	A2	1914-01	1937-05	Retired
81430	A2	1914-01	1939-03	Retired
81431	A2	1914-01	1937-02	Retired
81432	A2	1914-01	1937-06	Retired
81433	A2	1914-01	1936-06	Retired
81434	A2	1914-01	1937-05	Retired
81435	A2	1914-01	1937-07	Retired
81436	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29064
81437	A2	1914-01	1939-08	Retired
81438	A2	1914-01	1939-11	Retired
81439	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29089
81440	A2	1914-01	1938-09	Retired
81441	A2	1914-01	1936-12	Retired
81442	A2	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81443	A2	1914-01	1940-02	to	X81443
81444	A2	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81445	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29075
81446	A2	1914-01	1928-08	Destroyed
81447	A2	1914-01	1936-03	Retired
81448	A2	1914-01	1937-04	Retired
81449	[not listed in "A2", presumed retired before list created]
81450	A2	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81451	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29030
81452	A2	1914-01	1940-02	to	X81452
81453	A2	1914-01	1929-06	to	29054
81454	A2	1914-01	1937-10	Retired
81455	A2	1914-01	1936-09	Retired
81456	A2	1914-01	1935-02	Retired
81457	A2	1914-01	1937-05?	Retired
81458	A2	1914-01	1939-02	Retired
81459	A2	1914-01	1936-11	Retired
81460	A2	1914-02	1929-06	to	29071
81461	A2	1914-02	1940-03	to	X81451
81462	A2	1914-02	1935-06	to	0279
81463	A2	1914-02	1936-09	Retired
81464	A2	1914-02	1936-07	Retired
81465	A2	1914-02	1930-02	to	0845
MTC 81466	A2	1914-02	1940-03	to	W0223
81467	A2	1914-02	1929-06	to	29017
MTC 81468	A2	1914-02	1940-03	to	X81468
81469	A2	1914-02	1936-12	Retired
81470	A2	1914-02	1939-08	Retired
81471	A2	1914-02	1929-06	to	29060
81472	A2	1914-02	1937-04	Retired
81473	A2	1914-02	1929-06	to	29032
81474	A2	1914-02	1929-06	to	29053
MTC 81475	A2	1914-02	1937-04	Retired
81476	A2	1914-02	1938-11	Retired
81477	A2	1914-02	1929-06	to	29019
81478	A2	1914-02	1940-02	to	X81478
81479	A2	1914-02	1929-06	to	29025
MTC 81480	A2	1914-02	1938-03	Retired
81481	A2	1914-02	1937-04	Retired
81482	A2	1914-02	1930-02	to	0847
81483	A2	1914-02	1933-06	Destroyed
81484	A2	1914-02	1929-06	to	29018
81485	A2	1914-02	1938-12	Retired
81486	A2	1914-02	1938-11	Retired
81487	A2	1914-02	1929-06	to	29010
81488	A2	1914-02	1937-01	Retired
81489	A2	1914-02	1929-07	to	29095
81490	A2	1914-02	1937-08	Retired
81491	A2	1914-02	1939-08	Retired
81492	A2	1914-02	1936-12	Retired
81493	A2	1914-02	1937-03	Retired
81494	[not listed in "A2", presumed retired before list created]
81495	A2	1914-02	1936-06	Retired
81496	A2	1914-02	1939-02	Retired
81497	A2	1914-02	1936-06	Retired
81498	A2	1914-02	1938-11	Retired
81499	A2	1914-02	1938-07	Retired

ICC Valuation Data (circa 1914)

For more info on the ICC valuation data, see this web page

"Owning" RR	Car # / Range	Val Sheet #	Index on Page	Car Type	Built Date	Builder	Capy	Underframe	Body	Notes
B&M	81000-81033	BM-23	20	Gon - Steel Drop bottom	1913	Pressed St[eel] Car Co	100	steel	steel
B&M	81034-81099	BM-23	21	Gon - Steel Drop bottom	1914	Pressed St[eel] Car Co	100	steel	steel
B&M	81100-81199	BM-23	22	Gon - Steel Drop bottom	1914	Pressed St[eel] Car Co	100	steel	steel
B&M	81200-81299	BM-23	23	Gon - Steel Drop bottom	1914	Pressed St[eel] Car Co	100	steel	steel
B&M	81300-81399	BM-23	24	Gon - Steel Drop bottom	1914	Pressed St[eel] Car Co	100	steel	steel
B&M	81400-81499	BM-23	25	Gon - Steel Drop bottom	1914	Pressed St[eel] Car Co	100	steel	steel

Paint Schemes

As delivered

Speculating, based on the 80000 series, and the ebay photo below:
Painted Black (including trucks)
"BOSTON & MAINE" centered on the car side. Below that:
Car number centered on car side
Other lettering unknown (likely no herald)

References or other data

• Magazine/Book article(s)

Photographs

Page	Car #	Photo Date yr-mo-day		Visible?				Markings				Paint Scheme	Herald	Notes
B&MRRHS "Flickr" page Above is direct link. Title="Boston & Maine P-1 No. 3605 (4-6-2), East Somerville, Mass, May 5, 1936"
	81227[?]	1936-05-05		p				B&M	R	R	AB			well weathered lettering, only 2 panels and part of truck visible.
Photo on ebay (noted on 07-Dec-2020) Identified as "# P244 BOSTON & MAINE RAILROAD PHOTOGRAPH, ENGINE " 3226 " "
	811[3/5?]1	1915-07-11		p				S1&	R	R	N	original	none?	number centered on car side, assuming no other reporting marks
Earl Tuson's Web site (From Boston Public Library)
	?	ca 1919		X	p		p	S1&?	R	?	?	?	none	Load of [carriages/wagons?]

Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions

Date	Quantity	New Numbers	Description
1929	100	29000-29099	Converted to Pulp Wood Racks

Models

In B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #62 (Sep-Oct 1999) from C Harmantas indicates the Reb Caboose [now Intermountain?] GS drop bottom gons would be a good starting point to kitbash these cars

Revision History

File History for THIS page

Date	Who	Description
26-Dec-2019	KG Akerboom	Initial release
25-Mar-2020	KG Akerboom	Added data from 19 more ORERs
04-Apr-2020	KG Akerboom	Re-did references/photos section
25-Apr-2020	KG Akerboom	Updated per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37
26-Apr-2020	KG Akerboom	Added more B&MRRHS Flickr
05-May-2020	KG Akerboom	Moved ORER notes into separate section
09-May-2020	KG Akerboom	Added 1942 class cards
11-May-2020	KG Akerboom	Updated class card table
16-May-2020	KG Akerboom	Added data from 4 more ORERs (1911,1919,1921,1931)
28-May-2020	KG Akerboom	updated 10/1919
21-Jul-2020	KG Akerboom	"Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
07- thru 16-Aug-2020	KG Akerboom	Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
10-Oct-2020	KG Akerboom	Added E. Neubauer ORER data (car counts only, 15 issues)
17-Oct-2020	KG Akerboom	Added Car Book Data
17-Nov-2020	KG Akerboom	Standardized formatting of Classification Card(s) section
20-Nov-2020	KG Akerboom	Updated 1942 Classification Card(s)
25-Nov-2020	KG Akerboom	Added 1955 Classification Card
08-Dec-2020	KG Akerboom	Added ebay photo and (speculative) initial paint scheme
30-Dec-2020	KG Akerboom	Added Modelers Notes info
10-Apr-2021	KG Akerboom	Added info from 47 more ORERs 1903 thru 1917
04-Jul-2021	KG Akerboom	Reorganized Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data (Car # to 1st column, 2nd/other changes to new rows)
20-Oct-2021	KG Akerboom	Added remaining 7/1928 - 10/1947 ORERs
30-Oct-2021	KG Akerboom	Added car disposition record data
22-Jan-2022	KG Akerboom	Added ICC Valuation data
13-Oct-2022	KG Akerboom	Updated per [almost] complete ORER data
04-Jan-2023	KG Akerboom	Fixed headers and footers...hopefully
25-Feb-2023	KG Akerboom	Fixed link to scanned data (car books)