Boston & Maine 29000 Series Stock Cars

Index

Builder's Photo
Classification Card(s) for series
Specifications
ORER data
ORER Notes
Discussion, General Notes
ICC Valuation Data
Paint Schemes
References
Photographs
Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions
Modeling
Revision History of this page

Builder's Photo

Does one exist?

B&M Classification Card(s)

Does one exist?

Specifications From Classification Cards

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ORER data and numbers

ORER Size Data
Description 3/1914 11/1914 12/1914
M.C.B. Designation SM SM
Inside
Dimensions Length 34'-3" 34'-3" 34'-3"
Width 8'-4½" 8'-4½" 8'-4½"
Height 6'-10" 6'-10" 6'-10"
Outside
Dimensions Length 35'-4" 35'-4" 35'-4"
Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 9' 9' 9'
Extreme Width
Height
from
Rail To Extreme Width
To Eaves or top of sides or platform
To Top of Running Board
To Extreme Height
Door - Side
opening Width 5'
Height 7'
Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 1969 1969 1969
Pounds 40000 40000 40000

ORER History
ORER Date
(Year-Mo.) Car
Numbers # of
Cars Description
In "Freight Equipment" table of Boston & Maine RR listing
Also see discussion below
Start? of transition from Ore to Stock cars
1914 - 02 29000-29099 13 Ore
1914 - 03 29000-29024 13 Ore
1914 - 04 (same)
1914 - 05 (same)
1914 - 06 (same)
1914 - 07 (same)
1914 - 08 (same)
1914 - 09 (same)
1914 - 10 " 1 Ore
1914 - 11 " 13 Stock
End of transition from Ore to Stock cars
1914 - 12 " 12 "
1915 - 01 (same)
1915 - 02 (same)
1915 - 03 " 11 "
1915 - 04 (same)
1915 - 05 (same)
1915 - 06 (same)
1915 - 07 (same)
1915 - 08 (same)
1915 - 09 (same)
1915 - 10 (same)
1915 - 11 (same)
1915 - 12 (same)
1916 - 01 (same)
1916 - 02 " 9 "
1916 - 03 (same)
1916 - 04 (same)
1916 - 05 (same)
1916 - 06 (same)
1916 - 07 (same)
1916 - 08 (same)
1916 - 09 (same)
1916 - 10 (same)
1916 - 11 (same)
1916 - 12 (same)
1917 - 01 (same)
1917 - 02 (same)
1917 - 03 " 8 "
1917 - 04 (same)
1917 - 05 (same)
1917 - 06 (same)
1917 - 07 " 7 "
1917 - 08 (same)
1917 - 09 (same)
1917 - 10 (same)
1917 - 11 (same)
1917 - 12 (same)
1918 - 01 (same)
1918 - 02 (same)
1918 - 03 (same)
1918 - 04 (same)
1918 - 05 (same)
1918 - 06 (same)
1918 - 07 (same)
1918 - 08 (same)
1918 - 09 " 6 "
1918 - 10 (same)
1918 - 11 (same)
1918 - 12 " 5 "
1919 - 01 29004-29024 " "
1919 - 02 (same)
1919 - 03 (same)
1919 - 04 (same)
1919 - 05 (same)
1919 - 06 (same)
1919 - 07 (same)
1919 - 08 (same)
1919 - 09 (same)
1919 - 10 " 4 "
1919 - 11 (same)
1919 - 12 29019-29024 3 "
1920 - 01 (same)
1920 - 02 (same)
1920 - 03 (same)
1920 - 04 (same)
1920 - 05 (same)
1920 - 06 29019-29021 2 "
1920 - 07 (same)
1920 - 08 (same)
1920 - 09 (same)
1920 - 10 (same)
1920 - 11 (same)
1920 - 12 (same)
1921 - 01 29019, 29021 " "
1921 - 02 (same)
1921 - 03 29019 1 "
1921 - 04 (same)
1921 - 05 (same)
1921 - 06 (same)
1921 - 07 (same)
1921 - 08 (same)
1921 - 09 (same)
1921 - 10 (same)
1921 - 11 (same)
1921 - 12 Not listed

ORER Size Data
Description	3/1914	11/1914	12/1914
M.C.B. Designation		SM	SM
Inside Dimensions	Length	34'-3"	34'-3"	34'-3"
Width	8'-4½"	8'-4½"	8'-4½"
Height	6'-10"	6'-10"	6'-10"
Outside Dimensions	Length	35'-4"	35'-4"	35'-4"
Width	At Eaves or top of sides or platform	9'	9'	9'
Extreme Width
Height from Rail	To Extreme Width
To Eaves or top of sides or platform
To Top of Running Board
To Extreme Height
Door - Side opening	Width			5'
Height			7'
Capacity	Cu Ft. Level Full	1969	1969	1969
Pounds	40000	40000	40000

ORER History
ORER Date (Year-Mo.)	Car Numbers	# of Cars	Description
In "Freight Equipment" table of Boston & Maine RR listing Also see discussion below
Start? of transition from Ore to Stock cars
1914 - 02	29000-29099	13	Ore
1914 - 03	29000-29024	13	Ore
1914 - 04	(same)
1914 - 05	(same)
1914 - 06	(same)
1914 - 07	(same)
1914 - 08	(same)
1914 - 09	(same)
1914 - 10	"	1	Ore
1914 - 11	"	13	Stock
End of transition from Ore to Stock cars
1914 - 12	"	12	"
1915 - 01	(same)
1915 - 02	(same)
1915 - 03	"	11	"
1915 - 04	(same)
1915 - 05	(same)
1915 - 06	(same)
1915 - 07	(same)
1915 - 08	(same)
1915 - 09	(same)
1915 - 10	(same)
1915 - 11	(same)
1915 - 12	(same)
1916 - 01	(same)
1916 - 02	"	9	"
1916 - 03	(same)
1916 - 04	(same)
1916 - 05	(same)
1916 - 06	(same)
1916 - 07	(same)
1916 - 08	(same)
1916 - 09	(same)
1916 - 10	(same)
1916 - 11	(same)
1916 - 12	(same)
1917 - 01	(same)
1917 - 02	(same)
1917 - 03	"	8	"
1917 - 04	(same)
1917 - 05	(same)
1917 - 06	(same)
1917 - 07	"	7	"
1917 - 08	(same)
1917 - 09	(same)
1917 - 10	(same)
1917 - 11	(same)
1917 - 12	(same)
1918 - 01	(same)
1918 - 02	(same)
1918 - 03	(same)
1918 - 04	(same)
1918 - 05	(same)
1918 - 06	(same)
1918 - 07	(same)
1918 - 08	(same)
1918 - 09	"	6	"
1918 - 10	(same)
1918 - 11	(same)
1918 - 12	"	5	"
1919 - 01	29004-29024	"	"
1919 - 02	(same)
1919 - 03	(same)
1919 - 04	(same)
1919 - 05	(same)
1919 - 06	(same)
1919 - 07	(same)
1919 - 08	(same)
1919 - 09	(same)
1919 - 10	"	4	"
1919 - 11	(same)
1919 - 12	29019-29024	3	"
1920 - 01	(same)
1920 - 02	(same)
1920 - 03	(same)
1920 - 04	(same)
1920 - 05	(same)
1920 - 06	29019-29021	2	"
1920 - 07	(same)
1920 - 08	(same)
1920 - 09	(same)
1920 - 10	(same)
1920 - 11	(same)
1920 - 12	(same)
1921 - 01	29019, 29021	"	"
1921 - 02	(same)
1921 - 03	29019	1	"
1921 - 04	(same)
1921 - 05	(same)
1921 - 06	(same)
1921 - 07	(same)
1921 - 08	(same)
1921 - 09	(same)
1921 - 10	(same)
1921 - 11	(same)
1921 - 12	Not listed

ORER Notes

Discussion, General Notes

The ORER listings for 29000 series [ore or stock] cars is a bit ambiguous
The 29000-29099 series ore cars were first listed in [1900-1901]
Various bit of data show (outside width at eaves or top of platform):

ORER
Date Car Nos. Car
Descr. Outside
length Outside
width # of
Cars Misc
(up to) 2/1914 29000-29099 Ore 33-34' 9' 13 No "inside" dimensions listed
3-9/1914 29000-29024 Ore 35'-4" 9' 13 Inside dimensions listed,
all listings match
10/1914 29000-29024 Ore 35'-4" 9' 1
11/1914 29000-29024 Stock 35'-4" 9' 13
4/1915 29000-29024 Stock 35'-4" 9' 11

What I *suspect* is that the ore cars were being retired, and they decided to use the same number series for new stock cars (to keep the new stock cars next to the other stock car number series) and that the change in Class (description), Car numbers, and Dimensions weren't all updated at the same time.
For 10/1914, I am unsure if that is the last old ore car, or the first new stock car. Until I learn otherwise, I am treating it as the "first new stock car".

ORER Date	Car Nos.	Car Descr.	Outside length	Outside width	# of Cars	Misc
(up to) 2/1914	29000-29099	Ore	33-34'	9'	13	No "inside" dimensions listed
3-9/1914	29000-29024	Ore	35'-4"	9'	13	Inside dimensions listed, all listings match
10/1914	29000-29024	Ore	35'-4"	9'	1
11/1914	29000-29024	Stock	35'-4"	9'	13
4/1915	29000-29024	Stock	35'-4"	9'	11

ICC Valuation Data (circa 1914)

For more info on the ICC valuation data, see this web page

"Owning"
RR Car # /
Range Val
Sheet # Index
on Page Car Type Built
Date Builder Capy Underframe Body Notes
Fitch 29003-29004 F-10 1 stock cars (used as ore cars) 1888-1891 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Fitch 29006-29007 F-10 2 stock cars (used as ore cars) 1888-1891 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Fitch 29011 F-10 3 stock cars (used as ore cars) 1888-1891 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Fitch 29014 F-10 4 stock cars (used as ore cars) 1888-1891 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Fitch 29016-29019 F-10 5 stock cars (used as ore cars) 1888-1891 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Fitch 29021 F-10 6 stock cars (used as ore cars) 1888-1891 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Fitch 29023-29024 F-10 7 stock cars (used as ore cars) 1888-1891 Fitchburg 40 wood wood

"Owning" RR	Car # / Range	Val Sheet #	Index on Page	Car Type	Built Date	Builder	Capy	Underframe	Body
Fitch	29003-29004	F-10	1	stock cars (used as ore cars)	1888-1891	Fitchburg	40	wood	wood
Fitch	29006-29007	F-10	2	stock cars (used as ore cars)	1888-1891	Fitchburg	40	wood	wood
Fitch	29011	F-10	3	stock cars (used as ore cars)	1888-1891	Fitchburg	40	wood	wood
Fitch	29014	F-10	4	stock cars (used as ore cars)	1888-1891	Fitchburg	40	wood	wood
Fitch	29016-29019	F-10	5	stock cars (used as ore cars)	1888-1891	Fitchburg	40	wood	wood
Fitch	29021	F-10	6	stock cars (used as ore cars)	1888-1891	Fitchburg	40	wood	wood
Fitch	29023-29024	F-10	7	stock cars (used as ore cars)	1888-1891	Fitchburg	40	wood	wood

Paint Schemes

References or other data

Magazine/Book article(s)

Photographs

Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions

Models

Revision History

File History for THIS page
Date Who Description
31-Dec-2019 KG Akerboom Initial release
04-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Re-did references/photos section
05-May-2020 KG Akerboom Moved ORER notes into separate section
15-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 4 more ORERs (1911,1919,1921,1931)
28-May-2020 KG Akerboom updated 10/1919
21-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom "Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
07- thru
16-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
10-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Added E. Neubauer ORER data (car counts only, 15 issues)
10-Apr-2021 KG Akerboom Added info from 47 more ORERs 1903 thru 1917
22-Jan-2022 KG Akerboom Added ICC Valuation data
12-Aug-2022 KG Akerboom Updated per [almost] complete ORER data
04-Jan-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed headers and footers...hopefully

File History for THIS page
Date	Who	Description
31-Dec-2019	KG Akerboom	Initial release
04-Apr-2020	KG Akerboom	Re-did references/photos section
05-May-2020	KG Akerboom	Moved ORER notes into separate section
15-May-2020	KG Akerboom	Added data from 4 more ORERs (1911,1919,1921,1931)
28-May-2020	KG Akerboom	updated 10/1919
21-Jul-2020	KG Akerboom	"Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
07- thru 16-Aug-2020	KG Akerboom	Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
10-Oct-2020	KG Akerboom	Added E. Neubauer ORER data (car counts only, 15 issues)
10-Apr-2021	KG Akerboom	Added info from 47 more ORERs 1903 thru 1917
22-Jan-2022	KG Akerboom	Added ICC Valuation data
12-Aug-2022	KG Akerboom	Updated per [almost] complete ORER data
04-Jan-2023	KG Akerboom	Fixed headers and footers...hopefully

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