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For more info on the classification cards and "webitizing" them, see this web pageFrom 1942 class book.
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(With some additions from Tim Glbert
Spec Value Converted by East Fitchburg Shops, from Lot-5 cars Lot # 44 Car Numbers 27200-27239 Quantity 40 Build Date 1902-1903 (for New Haven)
Acquired by B&M in 1911 (#33000 series flats)
Converted to stock cars in 1923AAR class SM Lt Weight 40,000 lbs (approx) Cubic Cap'y 2,544 Cu. Ft. Side planking Wood 2" x 8" Ends Wood with four 1¾" vertical wood beams Doors Wood with Camel door fixtures Roof Wood Trucks Fox Journals 5" x 9" (80,000 lbs nominal capacity) Side Bearings 69¾" center to center, 32¼" from rail to top of truck side bearing Air Brake KC 812 Brake Beam #2+ Draft Gear Tandem Spring Coupler ARA Coupler Yoke 5" x 7" shank, 6½" butt Width over posts and braces 9'-9⅝" Width over door handles 10'-6½"
ORER Size Data Description 8/1923 9/1923 10/1930 7/1937 M.C.B. / AAR Mechanical Designation SM SM SM SM Inside
DimensionsLength 35'-4" 35'-4" 35'-4" 35'-4" Width 9' 9' 9' Height 8' 8' 8' Outside
DimensionsLength 35'-8" 35'-8" 35'-8" 35'-8" Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 9'-5" 9'-5" 9'-5" 9'-6" Extreme Width 9'-6" Height
from
RailTo Extreme Width 12'-6" To Eaves or top of sides or platform 12'-6" 12'-6" 12'-6" 12'-6" To Top of Running Board 13'-5" 13'-5" 13'-5" To Extreme Height 13'-10" 13'-10" 13'-10" Door - Side
openingWidth 5' 5' 5' Height 7'-8¼" 7'-8" 7'-8" Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 2544 2544 2544 2544 Pounds 80000 80000 80000 80000
ORER History ORER Date
(Year-Mo.)Car
Numbers# of
CarsDescription In "Freight Equipment" table of Boston & Maine RR listing 1923 - 08 27200-27221 22 Stock 1923 - 09 " 36 " 1923 - 10 27200-27239 40 " 1923 - 11 (same) 1923 - 12 (same) 1924 - 01 (same) 1924 - 02 (same) 1924 - 03 (same) 1924 - 04 (same) 1924 - 05 (same) 1924 - 06 (same) 1924 - 07 (same) 1924 - 08 (same) 1924 - 09 (same) 1924 - 10 (same) 1924 - 11 (same) 1924 - 12 (same) 1925 - 01 (same) 1925 - 02 (same) 1925 - 03 (same) 1925 - 04 (same) 1925 - 05 (same) 1925 - 06 (same) 1925 - 07 (same) 1925 - 08 (same) 1925 - 09 (same) 1925 - 10 (same) 1925 - 11 (same) 1925 - 12 (same) 1926 - 01 (same) 1926 - 02 (same) 1926 - 03 (same) 1926 - 04 (same) 1926 - 05 (same) 1926 - 06 (same) 1926 - 07 (same) 1926 - 08 (same) 1926 - 09 (same) 1926 - 10 (same) 1926 - 11 (same) 1926 - 12 (same) 1927 - 01 (same) 1927 - 02 (same) 1927 - 03 (same) 1927 - 04 (same) 1927 - 05 (same) 1927 - 06 (same) 1927 - 07 (same) 1927 - 08 (same) 1927 - 08 (same) 1927 - 09 (same) 1927 - 10 (same) 1927 - 11 (same) 1927 - 12 (same) 1928 - 01 (same) 1928 - 02 (same) 1928 - 03 (same) 1928 - 04 (same) 1928 - 05 (same) 1928 - 06 (same) 1928 - 07 (same) 1928 - 08 (same) 1928 - 09 (same) 1928 - 10 (same) 1928 - 11 (same) 1928 - 12 (same) 1929 - 01 (same) 1929 - 02 (same) 1929 - 03 (same) 1929 - 04 (same) 1929 - 05 (same) 1929 - 06 " 39 " 1929 - 07 (same) 1929 - 08 (same) 1929 - 09 (same) 1929 - 10 (same) 1929 - 11 (same) 1929 - 12 (same) 1930 - 01 (same) 1930 - 02 (same) 1930 - 03 (same) 1930 - 04 (same) 1930 - 05 (same) 1930 - 06 (same) 1930 - 07 (same) 1930 - 08 (same) 1930 - 09 (same) 1930 - 10 (same) 1930 - 11 (same) 1930 - 12 (same) 1931 - 01 (same) 1931 - 02 (same) 1931 - 03 (same) 1931 - 04 (same) 1931 - 05 (same) 1931 - 06 (same) 1931 - 07 " 38 " 1931 - 08 (same) 1931 - 09 (same) 1931 - 10 (same) 1931 - 11 (same) 1931 - 12 (same) 1932 - 01 (same) 1932 - 02 (same) 1932 - 03 (same) 1932 - 04 (same) 1932 - 05 (same) 1932 - 06 (same) 1932 - 07 (same) Switch to Bi-monthly 1932 - 09 [no changes noted] 1932 - 11 [no changes noted] 1933 - 01 [no changes noted] 1933 - 03 [no changes noted] 1933 - 05 [no changes noted] 1933 - 07 " 37 " 1933 - 09 [no changes noted] 1933 - 11 [no changes noted] 1934 - 01 [no changes noted] 1934 - 03 [no changes noted] 1934 - 05 [no changes noted] 1934 - 07 (same) 1934 - 09 [no changes noted] 1934 - 11 [no changes noted] 1935 - 01 [no changes noted] 1935 - 03 [no changes noted] 1935 - 05 [no changes noted] 1935 - 07 " 32 " 1935 - 09 [no changes noted] 1935 - 11 [no changes noted] 1936 - 01 [no changes noted] 1936 - 03 [no changes noted] 1936 - 05 [no changes noted] 1936 - 07 " 31 " 1936 - 09 [no changes noted] 1936 - 11 [no changes noted] 1937 - 01 [no changes noted] 1937 - 03 [no changes noted] 1937 - 05 [no changes noted] Switch to Quarterly 1937 - 07 " 26 " 1937 - 10 (same) 1938 - 01 (same) 1938 - 04 (same) 1938 - 07 " 25 " 1938 - 10 " 24 " 1939 - 01 (same) 1939 - 04 (same) 1939 - 07 27202-27239 22 " 1939 - 10 " 21 " 1940 - 01 (same) 1940 - 04 (same) 1940 - 07 (same) 1940 - 10 " 19 " 1941 - 01 (same) 1941 - 04 " 18 " 1941 - 07 (same) 1941 - 10 " 17 " 1942 - 01 (same) 1942 - 04 (same) 1942 - 07 (same) 1942 - 10 (same) 1943 - 01 (same) 1943 - 04 (same) 1943 - 07 (same) 1943 - 10 (same) 1944 - 01 (same) 1944 - 04 (same) 1944 - 07 " 16 " 1944 - 10 (same) 1945 - 01 " 15 " 1945 - 04 (same) 1945 - 07 " 14 " 1945 - 10 Not listed
- Converted from 33000 series flat cars in 1923
- Per Tim Gilbert
Structurally, a flatcar does not use material as efficiently as a boxcar, whose underframe was supported by its sides, ends, and roof. The composite superstructure of the #27200 series stock cars weighed 11,600 pounds (40,200 - 28,600). The total light weight of a #64680 series boxcar which included additional weight for solid double sheathing of both the sides and ends(vs. single slatted sheathing on the #27200s) and a larger, heavier door [was 41,600 lbs]. While the weight of the underframe and trucks of a #64680 is not known, by using at least four times the wood for sheathing alone compared to the converted stock cars should add a lot more than the 800 pound difference between the light weights of the 36' boxcars and converted stock cars. Thus, it can be assumed that the 36' #33000 series flat cars underframes were more heavily constructed than the underframe of a #64680 boxcar.Stock cars were not a large feature on the B&M and were steadily declining in total. Before the 40 conversions in 1923, the B&M rostered about 130 cars which were mostly 19th century construction. After the #27200s underframes were more than 40 years old, fifteen of the #72000 series boxcars were converted to stock cars (the #27500-27514 series) in 1944-1945 (refer to [that web page]). After the war, most of the livestock carried to the Boston slaughterhouses was carried in foreign-owned stock cars so even these 15 were under-utilized. When needed, some were assigned to pulpwood service. By 1955, the need to have stock cars passed an the surviving #27500s were re-converted to box cars.
Volume number refers original book number
Part number refers to PDF file part as posted on B&MRRHS site
Page numbers refer to pages in PDF file(s) (L/R = Left or Right side of that PDF page)
Car
NumberVol Part Page Date Action Location 27202 3 1 2R 1945-03-20 Destroyed Boston 27203 3 1 3R 1945-05-04 Destroyed Billerica 27206 3 1 3R 1945-06-13 Destroyed Billerica 27208 3 1 3R 1945-06-20 Destroyed Billerica 27211 3 1 3R 1945-06-20 Destroyed Billerica 27213 3 1 3R 1945-06-20 Destroyed Billerica 27216 3 1 3R 1945-06-20 Destroyed Billerica 27218 3 1 3R 1945-06-20 Destroyed Billerica 27220 3 1 3R 1945-06-20 Destroyed Billerica 27224 3 1 3R 1945-06-13 Destroyed Billerica 27225 3 1 3R 1945-06-20 Destroyed Billerica 27226 3 1 4R 1945-07-27 Destroyed Billerica 27231 3 1 4L 1945-06-20 Destroyed Billerica 27236 3 1 4L 1945-06-20 Destroyed Billerica 27239 3 1 4L 1945-06-13 Destroyed Billerica
Source(s) ID Box Folder Folder name Link Title Approx.
Start dateApprox.
End dateA 1 5 Coal Cars 27200-27239 Stock - "A" 1924? 1942? B 1 8 Pulpwood, lumber, reefer 27200 - 27500 series Stock - "B" 1942-1944? 1945?
Data Car Number Disposition
Source IDDate
Built"Purchase"
DateConversion
Date"From"
Car #Disposition
DateDisposition 27200 A 1903-07 1912 1923-06 33495 1935-02 Retired 27201 A 1902-08 1912 1923-06 33091 1935-02 Retired 27202 A,B 1903-07 1912 1923-06 33083 1945-03 Retired 27203 A,B 1903-07 1912 1923-06 33305 1945-06 Retired 27204 A 1903-07
1902-081912 1923-06 1935-04 Retired 33279 [I am not sure why there are
2 lines of data for this car]27205 A 1903-06 1912 1923-06 33034 1939-05 Retired 27206 A,B 1903-07 1912 1923-06 33475 1945-06 Retired 27207 A 1903-06 1912 1923-06 33252 1938-03 Retired 27208 A,B 1903-06 1912 1923-06 33373 1945-06 Retired 27209 A 1903-06 1912 1923-06 33198 1936-07 Retired 27210 A 1903-07 1912 1923-06 33423 1940-12 Retired 27211 A,B 1903-07 1912 1923-06 33008 1945-06 Retired 27212 A 1903-07 1912 1923-06 33365 1939-05 Retired 27213 A,B 1903-06 1912 1923-06 33066 1945-06 Retired 27214 A 1902-08 1912 1923-06 33407 1934-06 Retired 27215 A 1903-06 1912 1923-06 33090 1931-05 Destroyed 27216 A,B 1903-07 1912 1923-06 33393 1945-06 Retired 27217 A 1903-06 1912 1923-06 33039 1936-03 Retired 27218 A,B 1903-07 1912 1923-06 33287 1945-06 Retired 27219 A 1903-07 1912 1923-06 33415 1932-11 Retired 27220 A,B 1903-07 1912 1923-06 33268 1945-06 Retired 27221 A 1903-07 1912 1923-06 33005 1936-08 Retired 27222 A 1902-08 1912 1923-07 33499 1938-05 Retired 27223 A 1903-07 1912 1923-07 33002 1939-04 Retired 27224 A,B 1903-07 1912 1923-07 33029 1945-06 Retired 27225 A,B 1903-07 1912 1923-07 33317 1945-06 Retired 27226 A,B 1903-07 1912 1923-07 33172 1945-07 Retired 27227 A,B 1903-07 1912 1923-07 33194 1944-05 Retired 27228 A 1903-07 1912 1923-07 33452 1940-07 Retired 27229 A 1903-06 1912 1923-07 33402 1936-06 Retired 27230 A 1903-07 1912 1923-07 33256 1940-07 Retired 27231 A,B 1903-07 1912 1923-07 33493 1945-06 Retired 27232 A 1902-08 1912 1923-07 33364 1941-07 to 0202 27233 A 1903-06 1912 1923-07 33418 1929-04 Destroyed 27234 A 1903-07 1912 1923-07 33052 1935-02 Retired 27235 A 1903-06 1912 1923-07 33024 1936-06 Retired 27236 A,B 1903-07 1912 1923-07 33060 1945-06 Retired 27237 A 1902-08 1912 1923-07 33179 1936-12 Retired 27238 A,B 1903-07 1912 1923-07 33260 1944-10 Retired 27239 A,B 1903-07 1912 1923-07 33354 1945-06 Retired
Ellis, Art. B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #23 (Dec, 1991) has an article modeling these cars starting with a Labelle wood kit and modifying as needed.
Page Car # Photo Date
yr-mo-dayVisible? Markings Paint
SchemeHerald Notes Heald, Bruce D. The Boston & Maine - Trains and Services Arcadia Publishing, 2005 ISBN 0-7385-3875-2 p78 27220? 1943-05 X A B&M R R ? spelled Reporting marks barely visible. fox trucks. Sign "Return to Woodsville, NH when empty" B&MRRHS Modelers Notes Issue No. included in "page" column No 15 p1 27226? 1943 A A B&M R R spelled Same picture as The Boston & Maine - Trains and Services p78
File History for THIS page Date Who Description 31-Dec-2019 KG Akerboom Initial release 22-Mar-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 19 more ORERs 04-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Re-did references/photos section 01-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 4 more ORER (1941, 1943, 1945, 1947) 05-May-2020 KG Akerboom Moved ORER notes into separate section 09-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added 1942 class cards 11-May-2020 KG Akerboom Updated class card table 15-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 4 more ORERs (1911,1919,1921,1931) 21-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom "Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns 07- thru
16-Aug-2020KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid 23-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Added Car Book Data 17-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Standardized formatting of Classification Card(s) section 22-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Updated 1942 Classification Card(s) 27-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Added 1955 Classification Card 31-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Updated misc stuff 04-Jul-2021 KG Akerboom Reorganized Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data (Car # to 1st column, 2nd/other changes to new rows) 17-Oct-2021 KG Akerboom Added remaining 7/1928 - 10/1947 ORERs 25-Oct-2021 KG Akerboom Added car disposition record data 11-Aug-2022 KG Akerboom Updated per [almost] complete ORER data 04-Jan-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed headers and footers...hopefully 25-Feb-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed link to scanned data (car books)
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