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ORER Size Data - 1903-1910 Description 4/1903 8/1909 Length 34' to 35' 34' to 36' Width Height Capacity (Pounds) 60000 60000 Has "*" indicating "Air Brakes" (1902-04 thru 1909-06)
ORER Size Data Description 6/1910 Value 2/1914 3/1914 11/1914 12/1914 10/1918 1/1924 10/1930 M.C.B. Designation XM XM XM XM XM Inside
DimensionsLength 34 to 36' 35'-10" 35'-10½" 35'-10½" 35'-10½" 35'-10½" 36' 36' Width 8'-4" 8'-4" 8'-3" 8'-3" 8'-3" 8'-3" 8'-3" 8'-3" Height … 7'-9¾" 6'-9½" 6'-9½" 6'-9½" 6'-9½" 6'-9½" 6'-9" Outside
DimensionsLength 35'-9" to 36'-9" 36'-9" 35'-9" 35'-9" 35'-9" 35'-9" 36'-9" 36'-9" Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 9'-4" 9'-4" 9'-4" 9'-4" 9'-4" 9'-4" 9'-4" 9'-4" Extreme Width Height
from
RailTo Extreme Width To Eaves or top of sides or platform To Top of Running Board To Extreme Height Door - Side
openingWidth 5'-9" 5'-9" 5'-9" 5'-9" Height 7'-7" 7'-7" 7'-7" 7'-7" Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 1898 1898 1898 2010 2010 2010 Pounds 60000 60000 60000 60000 60000 60000 60000 60000
ORER History ORER Date
(Year-Mo.)Car
Numbers# of
CarsDescription In "Freight Equipment" table of Boston & Maine RR listing 1900 - 11 40800-40841 42 Box, Ice, 34', 40000 lbs capacity 1900 - 12 (same) 1901 - 01 (same) 1901 - 02 (same) 1901 - 03 " 41 " 1901 - 04 (same) 1901 - 05 (same) 1901 - 06 (same) 1901 - 07 40800-40899 " " 1901 - 08 (same) 1901 - 09 (same) 1901 - 10 (same) 1901 - 11 (same) 1901 - 12 (same) 1902 - 01 (same) 1902 - 02 (same) 1902 - 03 (same) 1902 - 04 (same) 1902 - 05 (same) 1902 - 06 (same) 1902 - 07 (same) 1902 - 08 " 45 Box, Ice, 34', 40000 and 60000 lbs capacity 1902 - 09 " 53 " 1902 - 10 (same) 1902 - 11 (same) 1902 - 12 (same) 1903 - 01 (same) 1903 - 02 (same) 1903 - 03 (same) 1903 - 04 " " Box, Ice 1903 - 05 (same) 1903 - 06 (same) 1903 - 07 (same) 1903 - 08 (same) 1903 - 09 (same) 1903 - 10 (same) 1903 - 11 (same) 1903 - 12 (same) 1904 - 01 (same) 1904 - 02 (same) 1904 - 03 (same) 1904 - 04 (same) 1904 - 05 (same) 1904 - 06 (same) 1904 - 07 (same) 1904 - 08 (same) 1904 - 09 (same) 1904 - 10 (same) 1904 - 11 (same) 1904 - 12 (same) 1905 - 01 (same) 1905 - 02 (same) 1905 - 03 (same) 1905 - 04 (same) 1905 - 05 (same) 1905 - 06 (same) 1905 - 07 (same) 1905 - 08 (same) 1905 - 09 (same) 1905 - 10 (same) 1905 - 11 (same) 1905 - 12 (same) 1906 - 01 (same) 1906 - 02 (same) 1906 - 03 (same) 1906 - 04 (same) 1906 - 05 (same) 1906 - 06 (same) 1906 - 07 (same) 1906 - 08 " 116 [sic] " 1906 - 09 " 53 " 1906 - 10 (same) 1906 - 11 (same) 1906 - 12 (same) 1907 - 01 (same) 1907 - 02 (same) 1907 - 03 (same) 1907 - 04 (same) 1907 - 05 (same) 1907 - 06 (same) 1907 - 07 (same) 1907 - 08 (same) 1907 - 09 (same) 1907 - 10 (same) 1907 - 11 (same) 1907 - 12 (same) 1908 - 01 (same) 1908 - 02 (same) 1908 - 03 (same) 1908 - 04 (same) 1908 - 05 (same) 1908 - 06 (same) 1908 - 07 (same) 1908 - 08 (same) 1908 - 09 (same) 1908 - 10 (same) 1908 - 11 (same) 1908 - 12 (same) 1909 - 01 (same) 1909 - 02 (same) 1909 - 03 (same) 1909 - 04 (same) 1909 - 05 (same) 1909 - 06 (same) 1909 - 07 (same) 1909 - 08 " 78 " 1909 - 09 (same) 1909 - 10 (same) 1909 - 11 (same) 1909 - 12 (same) 1910 - 01 (same) 1910 - 02 (same) 1910 - 03 (same) 1910 - 04 (same) 1910 - 05 (same) 1910 - 06 (same) 1910 - 07 (same) 1910 - 08 (same) 1910 - 09 (same) 1910 - 10 (same) 1910 - 11 (same) 1910 - 12 (same) 1911 - 01 (same) 1911 - 02 (same) 1911 - 03 (same) 1911 - 04 (same) 1911 - 05 (same) 1911 - 06 (same) 1911 - 07 (same) 1911 - 08 (same) 1911 - 09 (same) 1911 - 10 (same) 1911 - 11 (same) 1911 - 12 (same) 1912 - 01 (same) 1912 - 02 (same) 1912 - 03 (same) 1912 - 04 (same) 1912 - 05 (same) 1912 - 06 (same) 1912 - 07 (same) 1912 - 08 (same) 1912 - 09 (same) 1912 - 10 (same) 1912 - 11 (same) 1912 - 12 (same) 1913 - 01 (same) 1913 - 02 (same) 1913 - 03 (same) 1913 - 04 (same) 1913 - 05 " 76 " 1913 - 06 " 75 " 1913 - 07 (same) 1913 - 08 (same) 1913 - 09 (same) 1913 - 10 " 74 " 1913 - 11 (same) 1913 - 12 (same) 1914 - 01 (same) 1914 - 02 (same) 1914 - 03 40800-40877 " " 1914 - 04 (same) 1914 - 05 (same) 1914 - 06 (same) 1914 - 07 (same) 1914 - 08 " 72 " 1914 - 09 (same) 1914 - 10 (same) 1914 - 11 (same) 1914 - 12 (same) 1915 - 01 (same) 1915 - 02 (same) 1915 - 03 (same) 1915 - 04 (same) 1915 - 05 (same) 1915 - 06 (same) 1915 - 07 (same) 1915 - 08 (same) 1915 - 09 (same) 1915 - 10 (same) 1915 - 11 " 70 " 1915 - 12 (same) 1916 - 01 (same) 1916 - 02 " 69 " 1916 - 03 (same) 1916 - 04 (same) 1916 - 05 (same) 1916 - 06 (same) 1916 - 07 (same) 1916 - 08 (same) 1916 - 09 (same) 1916 - 10 (same) 1916 - 11 (same) 1916 - 12 (same) 1917 - 01 (same) 1917 - 02 " 68 " 1917 - 03 (same) 1917 - 04 (same) 1917 - 05 (same) 1917 - 06 (same) 1917 - 07 (same) 1917 - 08 (same) 1917 - 09 " 66 " 1917 - 10 (same) 1917 - 11 (same) 1917 - 12 (same) 1918 - 01 (same) 1918 - 02 (same) 1918 - 03 (same) 1918 - 04 (same) 1918 - 05 (same) 1918 - 06 (same) 1918 - 07 (same) 1918 - 08 (same) 1918 - 09 (same) 1918 - 10 (same) 1918 - 11 (same) 1918 - 12 (same) 1919 - 01 (same) 1919 - 02 " 67 " 1919 - 03 (same) 1919 - 04 (same) 1919 - 05 " 66 " 1919 - 06 (same) 1919 - 07 (same) 1919 - 08 (same) 1919 - 09 " 65 " 1919 - 10 (same) 1919 - 11 (same) 1919 - 12 (same) 1920 - 01 (same) 1920 - 02 " 64 " 1920 - 03 (same) 1920 - 04 " 63 " 1920 - 05 (same) 1920 - 06 " 60 " 1920 - 07 (same) 1920 - 08 (same) 1920 - 09 40801-40877 56 " 1920 - 10 (same) 1920 - 11 " 52 " 1920 - 12 " 50 " 1921 - 01 (same) 1921 - 02 (same) 1921 - 03 (same) 1921 - 04 (same) 1921 - 05 (same) 1921 - 06 (same) 1921 - 07 (same) 1921 - 08 " 48 " 1921 - 09 (same) 1921 - 10 (same) 1921 - 11 (same) 1921 - 12 " 47 " 1922 - 01 " 46 " 1922 - 02 (same) 1922 - 03 (same) 1922 - 04 (same) 1922 - 05 (same) 1922 - 06 (same) 1922 - 07 " 45 " 1922 - 08 (same) 1922 - 09 " 43 " 1922 - 10 (same) 1922 - 11 (same) 1922 - 12 " 42 " 1923 - 01 " 39 " 1923 - 02 (same) 1923 - 03 (same) 1923 - 04 (same) 1923 - 05 (same) 1923 - 06 (same) 1923 - 07 (same) 1923 - 08 (same) 1923 - 09 (same) 1923 - 10 (same) 1923 - 11 (same) 1923 - 12 (same) 1924 - 01 (same) 1924 - 02 (same) 1924 - 03 (same) 1924 - 04 " 38 " 1924 - 05 40803-40877 36 " 1924 - 06 " 34 " 1924 - 07 (same) 1924 - 08 " 32 " 1924 - 09 (same) 1924 - 10 (same) 1924 - 11 (same) 1924 - 12 (same) 1925 - 01 (same) 1925 - 02 " 31 " 1925 - 03 " 30 " 1925 - 04 " 29 " 1925 - 05 " 28 " 1925 - 06 40829-40877 26 " 1925 - 07 40845-40877 25 " 1925 - 08 (same) 1925 - 09 40853-40877 23 " 1925 - 10 (same) 1925 - 11 " 22 " 1925 - 12 (same) 1926 - 01 (same) 1926 - 02 (same) 1926 - 03 (same) 1926 - 04 (same) 1926 - 05 (same) 1926 - 06 (same) 1926 - 07 (same) 1926 - 08 (same) 1926 - 09 (same) 1926 - 10 (same) 1926 - 11 (same) 1926 - 12 (same) 1927 - 01 (same) 1927 - 02 (same) 1927 - 03 (same) 1927 - 04 (same) 1927 - 05 (same) 1927 - 06 (same) 1927 - 07 (same) 1927 - 08 (same) 1927 - 09 (same) 1927 - 10 (same) 1927 - 11 (same) 1927 - 12 (same) 1928 - 01 (same) 1928 - 02 " 18 " 1928 - 03 (same) 1928 - 04 (same) 1928 - 05 " 17 " 1928 - 06 (same) 1928 - 07 (same) 1928 - 08 " 16 " 1928 - 09 (same) 1928 - 10 (same) 1928 - 11 (same) 1928 - 12 " 14 " 1929 - 01 (same) 1929 - 02 " 13 " 1929 - 03 " 12 " 1929 - 04 (same) 1929 - 05 (same) 1929 - 06 " 11 " 1929 - 07 (same) 1929 - 08 " 9 " 1929 - 09 (same) 1929 - 10 40853-40870 8 " 1929 - 11 (same) 1929 - 12 (same) 1930 - 01 (same) 1930 - 02 (same) 1930 - 03 (same) 1930 - 04 (same) 1930 - 05 (same) 1930 - 06 (same) 1930 - 07 (same) 1930 - 08 (same) 1930 - 09 " 7 " 1930 - 10 (same) 1930 - 11 (same) 1930 - 12 (same) 1931 - 01 (same) 1931 - 02 (same) 1931 - 03 (same) 1931 - 04 (same) 1931 - 05 (same) 1931 - 06 (same) 1931 - 07 (same) 1931 - 08 (same) 1931 - 09 (same) 1931 - 10 (same) 1931 - 11 (same) 1931 - 12 (same) 1932 - 01 (same) 1932 - 02 (same) 1932 - 03 (same) 1932 - 04 (same) 1932 - 05 (same) 1932 - 06 (same) Switch to Bi-monthly 1932 - 07 40854-40870 5 " 1932 - 09 [no changes noted] 1932 - 11 [no changes noted] 1933 - 01 [no changes noted] 1933 - 03 [no changes noted] 1933 - 05 [no changes noted] 1933 - 07 (same) 1933 - 09 [no changes noted] 1933 - 11 [no changes noted] 1934 - 01 [no changes noted] 1934 - 03 [no changes noted] 1934 - 05 [no changes noted] 1934 - 07 40854-40867 4 " 1934 - 09 [no changes noted] 1934 - 11 [no changes noted] 1935 - 01 [no changes noted] 1935 - 03 [no changes noted] 1935 - 05 [no changes noted] 1935 - 07 Not listed
- From Eric Neubauer Laconia data, the following cars were built by Laconia:
- 40853-40877 (25 cars, 60,000 lbs, built 1907, Laconia Order # 478 (bodies) and 479 (trucks)
40800-40852 are former Fitchburg RR cars- From Eric Neubauer Laconia data, the following cars were listed in the USRA valuation survey, 6/30/1914:
[see ICC valuation data below]- B&MRRHS 1900-1907 Freight Car Lettering Book No. 1 (Reprint of B&M lettering diagrams)
Note the "Book page number" below refers to the page number in the B&MRRHS book.
As the B&MRRHS book's pages are NOT numbered, "1" is the first page with an actual diagram! (NOT the title pages or index pages)
"U" = upper diagram on that page, "L" = lower diagramThe "Diagram number" refers to the circled number (lower right corner) in each diagram (the original page number)
Book page # 12 - L B&M Diagram # 23 Diagram Date 1907 Color on Diagram Brown Notes on Diagram "odd" sliding door in diagram (old style similar to plug doors?)
"Fitted for ice" painted on door"Pure Ice Fresh Pond Ice Company Brookline and Somerville" on right end of car side, with note:
This stencil was applied to 25 cars 36' inside, 60,000 lbs capacity, Nos. 40853-40877 inclusive, color, white"Datum 1900 Index 1907 Index Class of car Box Car Ice Box Car Flush door, Ice Length 34' 34', 35'-36' Capacity 40,000 60,000 [on diagram, it has 40,000 and 60,000] Car Numbers 40800-40841 40800-40852 Page [original] 12 23
Volume number refers original book number
Page numbers refer to numbers on pages in original book, NOT to pages in PDF file(s)
Dates refer to first/last dates expenses were recorded in the acquisition book, NOT to car delivery dates
Car Number(s) Vol Page First
DateLast
DateBuilder $ / Car Notes 40853-40877 1 104 1905-12 1907-05 Laconia Car Co. $834
Volume number refers original book number
Part number refers to PDF file part as posted on B&MRRHS site
Page numbers refer to pages in PDF file(s) (L/R = Left or Right side of that PDF page)
Car Number(s) Vol Part Page Date Action Location New # Notes 40819 1 2 8 1924-06-05 Destroyed 40847 1 3 8 1925-03-02 Destroyed
Source(s) (ID scope is for this web page only) ID Box Folder Folder name Link Title Approx.
Start dateApprox.
End dateA 2 1 Boxcars 40000 40200-46755 Box 1927? 1935
Data Car Number Disposition
Source IDDate Built Rebuilt
DateDisposition
DateDisposition 40853 A 1907-01 1932-05 Retired 40854 A 1907-01 1935-02 Retired 40855 A 1907-01 1930-07 Destroyed 40856 A 1907-01 1920-01 1935-02 Retired 40859 A 1907-01 1929-08 Sold for Scrap 40861 A 1907-01 1929-06 Sold for Scrap 40862 A 1907-01 1928-10 Sold for Scrap 40863 A 1907-01 1928-12 Sold for Scrap 40864 A 1907-01 1920-01 1935-02 Retired 40865 A 1907-01 1928-10 Sold for Scrap 40866 A 1907-01 1929-04 Sold for Scrap 40867 A 1907-01 1935-02 Retired 40868 A 1907-01 1928-06 Sold for Scrap 40869 A 1907-01 1932-05 Retired 40870 A 1907-01 1933-09 Retired 40874 A 1907-01 1928-03 Sold for Scrap 40875 A 1907-01 1921-04 1928-12 Sold for Scrap 40877 A 1907-01 1929-06 Sold for Scrap
For more info on the ICC valuation data, see this web page
"Owning"
RRCar # /
RangeVal
Sheet #Index
on PageCar Type Built
DateBuilder Capy Underframe Body Notes Fitch 40800-40820 F-8 108 Box, Ice 1888-1892 Fitchburg 60 wood wood Fitch 40822 F-8 112 Box, Ice 1888 Fitchburg 60 wood wood Fitch 40823-40824 F-8 109 Box, Ice 1888-1892 Fitchburg 60 wood wood Fitch 40825 F-8 113 Box, Ice 1888 Fitchburg 60 wood wood Fitch 40826 F-8 110 Box, Ice 1888-1892 Fitchburg 60 wood wood Fitch 40828 F-8 114 Box, Ice 1888 Fitchburg 60 wood wood Fitch 40829-40835 F-8 106 Box, Ice 1888-1892 Fitchburg 40 wood wood Fitch 40836 F-8 115 Box, Ice 1892-1896 Fitchburg/Laconia 60 wood wood Fitch 40838-40839 F-8 111 Box, Ice 1888-1892 Fitchburg 60 wood wood Fitch 40840 F-8 107 Box, Ice 1888-1892 Fitchburg 40 wood wood Fitch 40841-40842 F-8 116 Box, Ice 1892-1896 Fitchburg/Laconia 60 wood wood Fitch 40845-40852 F-8 117 Box, Ice 1892-1896 Fitchburg/Laconia 60 wood wood B&M 40853-40856 BM-15 128 Ice 1907 Laconia 60 wood wood B&M 40857-40874 BM-15 132 Ice 1907 Laconia 60 composite wood B&M 40858-40871 BM-15 129 Ice 1907 Laconia 60 wood wood B&M 40873 BM-15 130 Ice 1907 Laconia 60 wood wood B&M 40875-40877 BM-15 131 Ice 1907 Laconia 60 wood wood
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16-Aug-2020KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid 10-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Added E. Neubauer ORER data (car counts only, 15 issues) 12-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Added E. Neubauer Laconia build data 17-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Added Car Book Data 27-Jan-2021 KG Akerboom Added info from "1900-1907 Freight Car Lettering Diagrams" book 10-Apr-2021 KG Akerboom Added info from 47 more ORERs 1903 thru 1917 04-Jul-2021 KG Akerboom Reorganized Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data (Car # to 1st column, 2nd/other changes to new rows) 19-Oct-2021 KG Akerboom Added remaining 7/1928 - 10/1947 ORERs 26-Oct-2021 KG Akerboom Added car disposition record data 22-Jan-2022 KG Akerboom Added ICC Valuation data 13-Aug-2022 KG Akerboom Updated per [almost] complete ORER data 04-Jan-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed headers and footers...hopefully 06-Feb-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed 1903-02 count 25-Feb-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed link to scanned data (car books) 28-May-2023 KG Akerboom Back-filled 1900 data 22-Jul-2023 KG Akerboom Back-filled missing 1914 data
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