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Spec Value Builder Thrall (racks) Lot # Car Numbers Quantity Build Date 1986 (racks)
ORER Size Data Description 7/1985(?), 254000 series TTBX 254086 TTBX 963657 TTBX 908776-908871 M.C.B. / AAR Mechanical Designation FA Inside
Length 89'-4" 89'-4" 89'-4" 89'-4" Width 9' 9' 9' 8'-4" Height Outside
Length 93'-8" 93'-8" 93'-8" 93'-8" Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform Extreme Width 10'-3" 10'-3" 14'-10" 9'-10" Height
To Extreme Width To Eaves or top of sides or platform To Top of Running Board To Extreme Height 16'-8" 16'-8" 14'-10" 14'-11" Door - Side
Width Height Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full Pounds 124000 (?or is this lt wt.?) 124000 127000 81000
Bi-level auto racks, partial enclosures. Rack number known only for indicated car. These cars are in service [as of 1990]
All are TTBX Car No. Rack No. 914191 963657 963830 964500 253900 253905 45019 253958 253999 254086 254113 254115 254128 254151 254154 254215 254240 254325 254339 254344 254491 254651 255213 255247 255254 255319 255325 255373 255385 255398 255445 255469
Tri-level auto racks. Rack number unknown. These cars are in service [as of 1990]
All are TTKX Car No. 908776-908778 908781 908783 908786 908789-908792 908794-908796 908800-908803 908805 908808 908809 908815 908816 908820-908823 908825 908827 908871 908879
- Per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes, No 18 (7/1990)The auto racks are a new addition to the fleet. Both Bi- and Tri- level auto racks are in service. Only the racks and not the flat cars to which they are fitted are owned by the B&M/GTI. The [flat] cars are owned by Trailer Train Company. The racks are either partially enclosed (bi-level) or fully enclosed (tri-level) and were manufactured by Thrall Car Company.
(footnote in dimensional section)
Figures are based on the 254000 series of cars. All cars vary an inch or two in their extreme width and extreme height due to variations in the types and construction of the racks; this is common to all three series of auto racks. The other variation is in the capacity as the racks are also responsible for this. There figures are based on the earlier series of 254000 cars as the car nos. for this series of cars were not listed in the July 1985 Register.
[I am not sure what this applies to]
Rack numbers are 45040-45062
- KGA - as I didn't know these cars (actually, the racks) existed, all I have for data is the Modeler's Notes. So I will present that data "as is".
At some point I hope I will go back and fill in with ORER data.
- Per Jim Eager email 21-Jan-2023:Circa 1981 B&M leased a group of second-hand Whitehead & Kales TTKX hinged-mid deck, side-screened (side panels, no roof, [no] doors) trilevels. I have been unable to determine the source of the cars or the total number, but I suspect they may be former Rock Island racks given the timing. The flats were all TTKX PLH10 low-level bowl-deck autorack flats from the TT 908700 and 908800 series built by Pullman-Standard in 1968. These racks were painted B&M blue, including the flats in a few cases, but most were TT mineral red or TT yellow.
I have found photos of cars 908802, 908803, 908820 and 908827 from this group.
In the mid-1980s B&M leased two groups of enclosed-side (no roof, [no] doors) Whitehead & Kales/Thrall bi-levels mounted on TTBX flush-deck flats. All of these racks wore the Guilford grey scheme.
The first group consisted of 30 or 40 racks, nos. 45000-49029 or 45039, installed by Thrall on Job 840 in 1984. I have not been able to find an ICC Recordation for them, but I have identified 28 of the car numbers. All were former TTX PSF20 tofc flats built by Pullman-Standard in 1973-1975, and converted to PSH20M cushioned cars for auto rack service. I have found photos of cars 254339, 255247, and 255319 from this group.
Identified car numbers & rack numbers:
- 253905 - 45019
- 255254 - 45020
In 1993 some if not all of these racks went to Conrail after being rebuilt to fully-enclosed racks with added roof and doors, remarked TTGX, CR class ML2M.
The second group consisted of 23 racks, nos. 49040-49062, installed by Thrall on Job 889 in 1986. ICC Recordation 14958 covers the 1986 lease of this group and includes a list of all 23 TTBX car numbers assigned in Exhibit D-1. All but three of the cars were former TTX PSF20 tofc flats, the remaining three cars were former TTCX BSH12 or BSH20 cofc flats built by Bethlehem Steel in 1973-1974.
I have found photos of cars 253948, 254646, 255917, 255937, 255975, and 256160 from this group.
For car & rack numbers see attached Exhibit D-1.
In 1994 all but one of the racks from this group went to SOO/CP after being rebuilt to fully-enclosed racks with added roof and doors, remarked TTGX, and painted in red CP Rail livery.
- As delivered
- beige scheme with B&M / GTI reporting marks
Page Car # Photo Date
Visible? Markings Paint
Herald Notes B&MRRHS Modelers Notes Issue No. included in "page" column No 18 p6 ? 1986 X hard to see anything No 18 p6 ? 1986 X "top down" shot of bilevel Houghton's RailImages On-line photos
If direct link doesn't work, go to top level → "Boston & Maine Railroad" album, scroll thru
BM-368.jpg TTBX 255247 Y X p TTBX G G N N ? COTS on far end of car, hard to see Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery (as of 29-Aug-2020)
"American Railroads" → "Boston & Maine"
Then scroll down to find the photo.
TTBX 254646 1988-11 Y X p TTBX G G N N 3 N N N yellow flat, grey rack Guilford "G" open-top/full side/open end bilevel TTRX lease cars
You may have to join this group to see the photos
Alternative URL: https://groups.io/g/BM-RR → Photo Albums → B&M Auto Racks → TTRX lease cars
TTRX 908822 1987-10 Y X p X ? ? 2 different photos Photo on ebay (noted on 07-Dec-2020)
Identified as "RAILROAD PRINT BOSTON & MAINE B&M AUTORACK TTKX #908827"
TTKX 908827 X N 3 N N N blue (rack AND car!) "BM" tri-level Photo on ebay (noted on 03-23-2014)
"not found" as of Dec, 2020.
Note Accurail has a "open side" double deck auto-rack (stock # 9210, car # TTBX 908820??) that is of unknown accuracy. Listed on Accurail web site, Dec 2020.
File History for THIS page Date Who Description 08-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Initial release 25-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Added Houghton's RailImages web site 05-May-2020 KG Akerboom Moved ORER notes into separate section 21-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom "Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns 07- thru
KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid 29-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added Freight Car Journal reference(s) 29-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added "Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery" photos 01-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Added groups.io.BM-RR photos 08-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Added ebay photo 12-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Added model info 21-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Added groups.io "MFCL" info 31-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Updated misc stuff 04-Jan-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed headers and footers...hopefully 22-Jan-2023 KG Akerboom Added Jim Eager information
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