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Does one exist?Image from June, 1893 Official Railway Equipment Register, p230
I am assuming there is some (perhaps vague) resemblance of this image to the actual cars, but in lieu of builder's (or other) photos, it is likely as good as I'm going to get.
Does one exist?
?
ORER Size Data - 1894 Description 2/1892
(10133)3/1892 11/1893 3/1901 4/1903 9/1910
(Outside)Length 32'-6" 32'-6" 33' & 34' 33' & 34' 33' to 34' 33' to 34' Width 8' Height 11' Capacity (Pounds) 30000 30 & 40000 40 & 50000 40 to 60000 40 to 60000 1893-11: Speculating: the 33' / 30000 cars are the 24 cars from 1889, and the 34' / 40000 cars are the ones built 1892-1893?
Does NOT have "*" indicating "Air Brakes" (1902-04 thru 1909-03)
ORER Size Data Description 2/1914 3/1914 11/1914 12/1914 M.C.B. Mechanical Designation XM XM Inside
DimensionsLength 33'-5" 33'-5" 33'-5" 33'-5" Width 8'-5" 8'-5" 8'-5" 8'-5" Height 6'-11" 6'-11" 6'-11" 6'-11" Outside
DimensionsLength 34' 34' 34' 34' Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 8' 8' 8' 8' Extreme Width Height
from
RailTo Extreme Width To Eaves or top of sides or platform 11' 11' 11' 11' To Top of Running Board To Extreme Height Door - Side
openingWidth 5' Height 7'-6" Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 1945 1945 1945 Pounds 40 to 60000 50000 50000 50000
ORER History ORER Date
(Year-Mo.)Car
Numbers# of
CarsDescription In "Worcester, Nashua & Rochester Division" section of B&M listing
in "Cars in Line Service" table1889 - 06 10000-10024 … Canadian Pacific Despatch In "Worcester, Nashua & Rochester Division" section of B&M listing
moved to "Freight Equipment" table1889 - 07 " 25 Box, Can. Pac. Desp., 8 whl. 1889 - 08 (same) 1889 - 09 (same) 1889 - 10 (same) 1889 - 11 (same) 1889 - 12 (same) 1890 - 01 (same) 1890 - 02 (same) 1890 - 03 (same) In "Worcester, Nashua & Portland Division" table of B&M listing
still in "Freight Equipment" table1890 - 04 " … " 1890 - 05 (same) 1890 - 06 (same) Now also in "Cars in Line Service" section of B&M table (listed 2 places) 1890 - 07 " … Box, Can. Pac. Desp., 8 whl.
(WN&P "Freight Equip." table)… Box, W.N. & R., C.P.Desp.
(B&M "Line Service" table)1890 - 08 (same) (both rows) 1890 - 09 (same) (both rows) 1890 - 10 " 25 Box, Can. Pac. Desp., 8 whl.
(WN&P "Freight Equip." table)… Box, W.N. & R., C.P.Desp.
(B&M "Line Service" table)1890 - 11 (same) (both rows) 1890 - 12 (same) (both rows) 1891 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1891 - 02 (same) (both rows) 1891 - 03 " 25 Box, Can. Pac. Desp., 8 whl.
(WN&P "Freight Equip." table)" 25 Box, W.N. & R., C.P.Desp.
(B&M "Line Service" table)Line in "Worcester, Nashua & Portland Division" "Freight Equipment" table of B&M listing removed
Line in B&M section, "Cars in Line Service" table remains1891 - 04 10000-10024 25 Box, W.N. & R., C.P.Desp. 1891 - 05 (same) 1891 - 06 (same) 1891 - 07 (same) 1891 - 08 (same) 1891 - 09 (same) 1891 - 10 (same) 1891 - 11 (same) 1891 - 12 (same) 1892 - 01 (same) 1892 - 02 " 24 Box, B. & M., C.P.D. 10133 1 Box, B. & M., C.P.D. 1892 - 03 (same) (both rows) 1892 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1892 - 05 (same) (both rows) 1892 - 06 (same) (both rows) 1892 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1892 - 08 10000-10144 36 " 1892 - 09 (same) 1892 - 10 10000-10299 " " 1892 - 11 (same) 1892 - 12 " 189 " 1893 - 01 " " 1893 - 02 " " 1893 - 03 " " Listed in both "Cars in Line Service" table and "New Series for B&M Cars" table 1893 - 04 " 189 Box, B&M, C.P.D.
("Line Service" table)(none)
8-wheel Box, Canadian Pacific Despatch
("New Series" table)1893 - 05 " 261 "("Line Service" table) (none) "("New Series" table) 1893 - 06 (same) (both rows) 1893 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1893 - 08 (same) (both rows) 1893 - 09 (same) (both rows) 1893 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1893 - 11 " 295 B&M, C.P.D.
("Line Service" table)300 "("New Series" table) 1893 - 12 (same) (both rows) 1894 - 01 " 298 "("Line Service" table) 300 "("New Series" table) 1894 - 02 (same) (both rows) 1894 - 03 " 298 "("Line Service" table) 297 "("New Series" table) 1894 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1894 - 05 " 299 "("Line Service" table) 297 "("New Series" table) "New Series for B&M Cars" table now just in "Freight Equipment" table 1894 - 06 (same) (both rows) 1894 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1894 - 08 (same) (both rows) 1894 - 09 (same) (both rows) 1894 - 10 " 300 "("Line Service" table) 300 "("Freight Equipment" table) 1894 - 11 (same) (both rows) 1894 - 12 (same) (both rows) 1895 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1895 - 02 (same) (both rows) 1895 - 03 (same) (both rows) 1895 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1895 - 05 (same) (both rows) 1895 - 06 (same) (both rows) 1895 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1895 - 08 (same) (both rows) 1895 - 09 (same) (both rows) 1895 - 10 10000-10299 300 "("Line Service" table) 296 "("Freight Equipment" table) 1895 - 11 (same) (both rows) 1895 - 12 10000-10334 300 "("Line Service" table) 296 "("Freight Equipment" table) 1896 - 01 " 330 "("Line Service" table) 330 "("Freight Equipment" table) 1896 - 02 (same) (both rows) 1896 - 03 (same) (both rows) 1896 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1896 - 05 " 300 "("Line Service" table) 330 "("Freight Equipment" table) 1896 - 06 (same) (both rows) 1896 - 07 " … "("Line Service" table) 330 "("Freight Equipment" table) 1896 - 08 " 313 "("Line Service" table) 330 "("Freight Equipment" table) 1896 - 09 " 320 "("Line Service" table) 330 "("Freight Equipment" table) 1896 - 10 " 300 "("Line Service" table) 330 8-wheel Box, Canadian Pacific Despatch, 33 and 34 feet
("Freight Equipment" table)1896 - 11 (same) (both rows) 1896 - 12 " 320 "("Line Service" table) 330 "("Freight Equipment" table) 1897 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1897 - 02 " 325 "("Line Service" table) 330 "("Freight Equipment" table) 1897 - 03 " 327 "("Line Service" table) 330 "("Freight Equipment" table) 1897 - 04 " 329 "("Line Service" table) 330 "("Freight Equipment" table) 1897 - 05 " 329 "("Line Service" table) 329 "("Freight Equipment" table) 1897 - 06 (same) (both rows) 1897 - 07 (same) (both rows) Table now called "Leased cars in Line Service" 1897 - 08 (same) (both rows) Listing removed from "Leased cars in Line Service" table
(listing in main "Freight Equipment" table remains)1897 - 09 " 329 " 1897 - 10 (same) 1897 - 11 (same) 1897 - 12 (same) 1898 - 01 " 328 " 1898 - 02 (same) 1898 - 03 (same) 1898 - 04 (same) 1898 - 05 " 327 " 1898 - 06 (same) 1898 - 07 (same) 1898 - 08 (same) 1898 - 09 (same) 1898 - 10 (same) 1898 - 11 (same) 1898 - 12 (same) 1899 - 01 (same) 1899 - 02 (same) 1899 - 03 (same) 1899 - 04 (same) 1899 - 05 (same) 1899 - 06 (same) 1899 - 07 (same) 1899 - 08 (same) 1899 - 09 (same) 1899 - 10 " 326 " 1899 - 11 (same) 1899 - 12 (same) 1900 - 01 (same) 1900 - 02 (same) 1900 - 03 (same) 1900 - 04 " 324 " 1900 - 05 (same) 1900 - 06 (same) 1900 - 07 (same) 1900 - 08 (same) 1900 - 09 " " Box, Canadian Pacific Despatch, 33 and 34 feet 1900 - 10 " 323 " 1900 - 11 (same) 1900 - 12 " 322 " 1901 - 01 (same) 1901 - 02 (same) 1901 - 03 " " Box, Can. Pac. Desp., 33 and 34 ft, 40000 and 50000 lbs capacity 1901 - 04 (same) 1901 - 05 (same) 1901 - 06 (same) 1901 - 07 (same) 1901 - 08 " 302 " 1901 - 09 " 301 " 1901 - 10 (same) 1901 - 11 " 300 " 1901 - 12 " 299 " 1902 - 01 (same) 1902 - 02 (same) 1902 - 03 " 298 " 1902 - 04 (same) 1902 - 05 (same) 1902 - 06 (same) 1902 - 07 (same) 1902 - 08 (same) 1902 - 09 (same) 1902 - 10 (same) 1902 - 11 (same) 1902 - 12 (same) 1903 - 01 (same) 1903 - 02 " 297 " 1903 - 03 (same) 1903 - 04 " 296 Box, Can. Pac. Despatch 1903 - 05 " 295 " 1903 - 06 " 296 " 1903 - 07 (same) 1903 - 08 (same) 1903 - 09 (same) 1903 - 10 (same) 1903 - 11 " 295 " 1903 - 12 " 294 " 1904 - 01 (same) 1904 - 02 (same) 1904 - 03 " 293 " 1904 - 04 " 291 " 1904 - 05 " 310 " 1904 - 06 (same) 1904 - 07 (same) 1904 - 08 (same) 1904 - 09 " 308 " 1904 - 10 " 306 " 1904 - 11 (same) 1904 - 12 (same) 1905 - 01 " 302 " 1905 - 02 (same) 1905 - 03 (same) 1905 - 04 (same) 1905 - 05 (same) 1905 - 06 " 301 " 1905 - 07 " 300 " 1905 - 08 " 299 " 1905 - 09 " 298 " 1905 - 10 (same) 1905 - 11 " 296 " 1905 - 12 (same) 1906 - 01 (same) 1906 - 02 " 294 " 1906 - 03 " 293 " 1906 - 04 (same) 1906 - 05 " 294 " 1906 - 06 (same) 1906 - 07 (same) 1906 - 08 (same) 1906 - 09 " 293 " 1906 - 10 " 292 " 1906 - 11 " 291 " 1906 - 12 (same) 1907 - 01 " 289 " 1907 - 02 " 288 " 1907 - 03 " 286 " 1907 - 04 " 285 " 1907 - 05 (same) 1907 - 06 (same) 1907 - 07 (same) 1907 - 08 " 284 " 1907 - 09 " 281 " 1907 - 10 (same) 1907 - 11 " 264 " 1907 - 12 " 255 " 1908 - 01 " 251 " 1908 - 02 " 249 " 1908 - 03 " 248 " 1908 - 04 (same) 1908 - 05 " 246 " 1908 - 06 " 245 " 1908 - 07 " 243 " 1908 - 08 " 241 " 1908 - 09 " 240 " 1908 - 10 " 238 " 1908 - 11 (same) 1908 - 12 (same) 1909 - 01 " 232 " 1909 - 02 " 229 " 1909 - 03 " 228 " 1909 - 04 " 224 " 1909 - 05 " 220 " 1909 - 06 " 219 " 1909 - 07 " 218 " 1909 - 08 " 210 " 1909 - 09 " 204 " 1909 - 10 " 202 " 1909 - 11 " 202? " 1909 - 12 " 194 " 1910 - 01 " 189 " 1910 - 02 " 187 " 1910 - 03 " 185 " 1910 - 04 (same) 1910 - 05 (same) 1910 - 06 " 178 " 1910 - 07 " 176 " 1910 - 08 " 174 " 1910 - 09 " 168 " 1910 - 10 " 164 " 1910 - 11 " 157 " 1910 - 12 " 154 " 1911 - 01 " 149 " 1911 - 02 " 148 " 1911 - 03 " 145 " 1911 - 04 " 144 " 1911 - 05 " 139 " 1911 - 06 " 134 " 1911 - 07 " 129 " 1911 - 08 (same) 1911 - 09 " 123 " 1911 - 10 " 120 " 1911 - 11 " 116 " 1911 - 12 " 115 " 1912 - 01 (same) 1912 - 02 " 112 " 1912 - 03 (same) 1912 - 04 (same) 1912 - 05 " 111 " 1912 - 06 " 109 " 1912 - 07 " 104 " 1912 - 08 " 103 " 1912 - 09 " 98 " 1912 - 10 (same) 1912 - 11 " 96 " 1912 - 12 " 91 " 1913 - 01 " 89 " 1913 - 02 " 88 " 1913 - 03 " 87 " 1913 - 04 " 82 " 1913 - 05 " 79 " 1913 - 06 " 76 " 1913 - 07 " 74 " 1913 - 08 " 67 " 1913 - 09 " 64 " 1913 - 10 " 62 " 1913 - 11 " 60 " 1913 - 12 " 57 " 1914 - 01 " 55 " 1914 - 02 " 53 Box 1914 - 03 " 51 " 1914 - 04 10000-10289 47 " 1914 - 05 (same) 1914 - 06 " 46 " 1914 - 07 " 43 " 1914 - 08 " 41 " 1914 - 09 (same) 1914 - 10 " 39 " 1914 - 11 " 38 " 1914 - 12 " 35 " 1915 - 01 " 33 " 1915 - 02 " 32 " 1915 - 03 " 30 " 1915 - 04 " 29 " 1915 - 05 " 28 " 1915 - 06 " 27 " 1915 - 07 (same) 1915 - 08 " 25 " 1915 - 09 " 23 " 1915 - 10 (same) 1915 - 11 (same) 1915 - 12 (same) 1916 - 01 (same) 1916 - 02 " 20 " 1916 - 03 " 17 " 1916 - 04 " 15 " 1916 - 05 (same) 1916 - 06 (same) 1916 - 07 (same) 1916 - 08 " 13 " 1916 - 09 (same) 1916 - 10 (same) 1916 - 11 " 11 " 1916 - 12 (same) 1917 - 01 (same) 1917 - 02 (same) 1917 - 03 " 10 " 1917 - 04 " 9 " 1917 - 05 " 8 " 1917 - 06 (same) 1917 - 07 (same) 1917 - 08 (same) 1917 - 09 (same) 1917 - 10 (same) 1917 - 11 " 6 " 1917 - 12 " 5 " 1918 - 01 (same) 1918 - 02 " 4 " 1918 - 03 (same) 1918 - 04 (same) 1918 - 05 " 3 " 1918 - 06 (same) 1918 - 07 (same) 1918 - 08 (same) 1918 - 09 (same) 1918 - 10 (same) 1918 - 11 (same) 1918 - 12 (same) 1919 - 01 10000-10250 " " 1919 - 02 " 4 " 1919 - 03 " 3 " Split into 2 lines, but I believe they are the same series (domensions match) 1919 - 04 10190-10200 2 Box 10253 1 Box 1919 - 05 (same) (both rows) 1919 - 06 10200 1 Box 10253 1 Box 1919 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1919 - 08 (same) (both rows) 1919 - 09 (same) (both rows) 1919 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1919 - 11 (same) (both rows) 1919 - 12 (same) (both rows) 1920 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1920 - 02 (same) (both rows) 1920 - 03 (same) (both rows) 1920 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1920 - 05 (same) (both rows) 1920 - 06 (same) (both rows) 1920 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1920 - 08 (same) (both rows) 1920 - 09 10253 1 " 1920 - 10 (same) 1920 - 11 (same) 1920 - 12 (same) 1921 - 01 (same) 1921 - 02 Not listed
- From Eric Neubauer Laconia data, the following cars were built by Laconia:
- 10147-10255 (50,000 lbs, built 1892)
- B&MRRHS 1900-1907 Freight Car Lettering Book No. 1 (Reprint of B&M lettering diagrams)
Note the "Book page number" below refers to the page number in the B&MRRHS book.
As the B&MRRHS book's pages are NOT numbered, "1" is the first page with an actual diagram! (NOT the title pages or index pages)
"U" = upper diagram on that page, "L" = lower diagramThe "Diagram number" refers to the circled number (lower right corner) in each diagram (the original page number)
Book page # 4 B&M Diagram # 7 Diagram Date 1907 Color on Diagram Red Notes on Diagram Datum 1900 Index 1907 Index Class of car Box Car Can. Pac. Despatch Box Car C. P. Despatch Length 32'-34' 33'-34' Capacity 40,000 40,000 Car Numbers 10000-10334 10000-10334 Page [original] 19 7
Source(s) ID Box Folder Folder name Link Title Approx.
Start dateApprox.
End dateA 1 3 Freight Car List Old 10190 - 12758 Auto + Misc ? 1928?
Data Car Number Date Built Disposition
DateDisposition New Car # 10190 1892-02 1919-04 to 3584
For more info on the ICC valuation data, see this web page
"Owning"
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DateBuilder Capy Underframe Body Notes B&M 10009 BM-7 1 Box 1881-1894 Laconia 40 wood wood B&M 10056 BM-7 2 Box 1881-1894 Laconia 40 wood wood B&M 10082 BM-7 3 Box 1881-1894 Laconia 40 wood wood B&M 10093 BM-7 4 Box 1881-1894 Laconia 40 wood wood B&M 10096 BM-7 5 Box 1881-1894 Laconia 40 wood wood B&M 10120 BM-7 6 Box 1881-1894 Laconia 40 wood wood B&M 10126 BM-7 7 Box 1881-1894 Laconia 40 wood wood B&M 10147 BM-7 9 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10156 BM-7 10 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10158 BM-7 11 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10164 BM-7 12 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10165 BM-7 13 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10168 BM-7 14 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10172 BM-7 15 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10178 BM-7 16 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10179 BM-7 17 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10181 BM-7 18 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10185 BM-7 19 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10190 BM-7 20 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10193 BM-7 21 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10194 BM-7 22 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10200 BM-7 23 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10213 BM-7 24 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10217 BM-7 25 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10218 BM-7 26 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10219 BM-7 27 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10227 BM-7 28 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10228 BM-7 29 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10229 BM-7 30 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10230 BM-7 31 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10232 BM-7 32 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10239 BM-7 33 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10245 BM-7 34 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10248 BM-7 35 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10250 BM-7 36 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10253 BM-7 37 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10254 BM-7 38 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10255 BM-7 39 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10260 BM-7 40 Box 1892 Laconia 50 wood wood B&M 10288 BM-7 8 Box 1881-1894 Laconia 40 wood wood
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