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NYNH&H 17xxx Series Leased Piggyback Flat Cars

Index

Builder's Photo

Does one exist?

B&M Classification Card(s)

I don't know if a B&M diagram exists, but the NYNH&H class diagram is available at:
"The Alphabet Route" web site (click on the "17500 - 17799" link - NOT the "17500 - 17534" link)

It appears the B&M also leased some NH 17800-17899 series cars (Photos show they are in use 23-Jun-1959)
The NYNH&H class diagram is available at:
"The Alphabet Route" web site (click on the "17800 - 17899" link)

Specifications From Classification Cards

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ORER data and numbers

ORER Size Data
Description 1/1953 (17500-17699) Series 17700-17799 Series 17800-17899
M.C.B. / AAR Mechanical Designation FC
Inside
Dimensions
Length 40'
Width 10'
Height
Outside
Dimensions
Length 40'
Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 10'
Extreme Width 10'-3"
Height
from
Rail
To Extreme Width 3'-3"
To Eaves or top of sides or platform 3'-5"
To Top of Running Board
To Extreme Height 7'-6"
Door - Side
opening
Width
Height
Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full
Pounds 100000

ORER Notes

Discussion, General Notes

Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data

Car Books (1923-06 thru 1936-10, then 1944-05 thru 1960-03)

Volume number refers original book number
Part number refers to PDF file part as posted on B&MRRHS site
Page numbers refer to pages in PDF file(s) (L/R = Left or Right side of that PDF page)
NOTE: once cars get renumbered into "company service" (zero + number, or W/M/S numbers), the following actions are my "best guess" as to what happened to the car (due to gaps in records, and the re-use of numbers)
Car Number(s) Vol PartPageDate Action Notes
NYNH&H 17612 4 4 7L 1956-05 Leased from NYNH&H - for Piggyback Service
NYNH&H 17620 4 4 7L 1956-05 Leased from NYNH&H - for Piggyback Service
NYNH&H 17625 4 4 7L 1956-05 Leased from NYNH&H - for Piggyback Service
NYNH&H 17638 4 4 7L 1956-05 Leased from NYNH&H - for Piggyback Service
NYNH&H 17680 4 4 7L 1956-05 Leased from NYNH&H - for Piggyback Service
NYNH&H 17689 4 4 7L 1956-05 Leased from NYNH&H - for Piggyback Service
NYNH&H 17697 4 4 7L 1956-05 Leased from NYNH&H - for Piggyback Service
NYNH&H 17700 4 4 7L 1956-05 Leased from NYNH&H - for Piggyback Service
NYNH&H 17707 4 4 7L 1956-05 Leased from NYNH&H - for Piggyback Service
NYNH&H 17724 4 4 7L 1956-05 Leased from NYNH&H - for Piggyback Service

Paint Schemes

References or other data

Photographs

PageCar # Photo Date
yr-mo-day
Visible? MarkingsPaint
Scheme
Herald Notes
B&MRRHS Flickr
Possibly a later lease of NH cars?
178x6? 1959-06-23 p black? NH Unloading B&M piggyback trailer
B&MRRHS Flickr
Same car as previous picture?
? 1959-06-23 p black? NH Unloading B&M piggyback trailer
B&MRRHS Flickr
? 1956-05-01 p black? With B&M piggyback trailer
B&MRRHS Flickr
Same car as previous picture? (note 2nd car to the right)
1762x 1956-05-01 p black? NH With B&M piggyback trailer
B&MRRHS Flickr
Same car as previous picture?
? 1956-05-01 p black? NH With B&M piggyback trailer
B&MRRHS Flickr
Car to the right of above
? 1956-05-01 p black? NH Unloading B&M piggyback trailer
B&M "groups.io" thread
Thread titled "Help with date/location? ", first post (21-Feb-2021) has a photo from Peter Ness' collection. Unknown if actually leased to the B&M.
1776[8 or 9]? X black? NH With B&M piggyback trailer. Note B&M 75xxx car to the right.

Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions

Models

NH modeling info from Peter Ness
Scale Manufacturer Stock number Car number Paint scheme Notes
HO Chad Boas ? ? ? "NH 17500 TOFC, PC 702640, NW 32900 40’ general steel casting frame"
price list from July, 2019 shows they are available directly from Chad.
HO Ulrich ? ? ? Needs "heavy" modification to match NH 17800 series
O Berkshire Valley Models ? ? ? 1998 O Scale convention car - limited run, no longer available

Revision History

File History for THIS page
Date Who Description
30-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Initial release
17-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Added link to "Alphabet Route" "Class diagram"
28-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Added B&MRRHS "flickr" photos
11-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Added more info from Peter Ness on NH flats, models, etc.
21-Feb-2021 KG Akerboom Added Peter Ness photo of 17768
04-Jul-2021 KG Akerboom Reorganized Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data (Car # to 1st column, 2nd/other changes to new rows)
25-Apr-2022 KG Akerboom Added info and instruction pgae from 1998 O scale convention car.
04-Jan-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed headers and footers...hopefully

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