Boston & Maine 5750 Series Covered Hopper Cars

Index

Builder's Photo
Classification Card(s) for series
Specifications
ORER data
ORER Notes
Discussion, General Notes
Paint Schemes
References
Photographs
Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions
Modeling
Revision History of this page

Builder's Photo

Does one exist?

B&M Classification Card(s)

Does one exist?

Specifications From Classification Cards Eric Neubauer

From Eric Neubauer - A History of the Center Flow

Spec Value
Builder ACF (Huntington, WV)
Builder Numbers 16508-16657 (includes other cars)
Car 5752 is serial # 16589, lot 11-02744
Car Numbers 5750-5754
Quantity 5
Build Date 07-1967
AAR class LO
Lt Weight 60700
Description ACF Center Flow® CF3560, phase 3 (per Eric's designations)
Cubic Cap'y 3560 Cu. Ft.
Hatches 5 x 30" round hatches on 7'-5" centers
Running boards Apex Tri-Lok
Outlet (possibly) 5024 (gravity-pneumatic, 32 bolt, Enterprise equipment, )
Misc Vibrator attachment; Roping staples

Spec	Value
Builder	ACF (Huntington, WV)
Builder Numbers	16508-16657 (includes other cars) Car 5752 is serial # 16589, lot 11-02744
Car Numbers	5750-5754
Quantity	5
Build Date	07-1967
AAR class	LO
Lt Weight	60700
Description	ACF Center Flow® CF3560, phase 3 (per Eric's designations)
Cubic Cap'y	3560 Cu. Ft.
Hatches	5 x 30" round hatches on 7'-5" centers
Running boards	Apex Tri-Lok
Outlet	(possibly) 5024 (gravity-pneumatic, 32 bolt, Enterprise equipment, )
Misc	Vibrator attachment; Roping staples

ORER data and numbers

ORER Size Data
Description 1/1968 1/1983 5/1983 7/1989
AAR Mechanical Designation LO LO LO LO
Inside
Dimensions Length 39'-8" 39'-8" 39'-8"
Width 10'-7" 10'-7" 10'-7"
Height
Outside
Dimensions Length 43' 45'-6" 45'-6" 45'-6"
Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 8'-10" 8'-10"
Extreme Width 10'-8" 10'-8" 10'-8" 10'-8"
Height
from
Rail To Extreme Width 13'-1" 8'-8" 8'-8"
To Eaves or top of sides or platform 15'-1" 14'-8" 14'-8"
To Top of Running Board
To Extreme Height 15'-1" 15'-1" 15'-1" 15'-1"
Door - Side
opening Width
Height
Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 3560 3560 3600 3600
Pounds 200000 200000 200000 200000

ORER History
ORER Date
(Year-Mo.) Car
Numbers # of
Cars Description
1967 - 10 5750-5754 5 Covered Hopper Note L
1968 - 01 (same)
1968 - 04 (same)
1968 - 07 (same)
1968 - 10 (same)
1969 - 01 (same)
1969 - 04 (same)
1969 - 07 (same)
1969 - 10 (same)
1970 - 01 (same)
1970 - 04 (same)
1970 - 07 (same)
1970 - 10 (same)
1971 - 01 (same)
1971 - 04 (same)
1971 - 07 (same)
1971 - 10 (same)
1972 - 01 (same)
1972 - 04 (same)
1972 - 07 (same)
1972 - 10 (same)
1973 - 01 (same)
1973 - 04 (same)
1973 - 07 (same)
1973 - 11 " " Covered Hopper, special interior lining
1974 - 01 " " Covered Hopper
1974 - 04 (same)
1974 - 07 (same)
1974 - 10 (same)
1975 - 01 (same)
1975 - 04 (same)
1975 - 07 (same)
1975 - 10 (same)
1976 - 01 (same)
1976 - 04 (same)
1976 - 07 (same)
1976 - 10 (same)
1977 - 01 (same)
1977 - 04 (same)
1977 - 07 (same)
1977 - 10 (same)
1978 - 01 (same)
1978 - 04 (same)
1978 - 07 (same)
1978 - 10 (same)
1979 - 01 (same)
1979 - 04 (same)
1979 - 07 (same)
1979 - 10 (same)
1980 - 01 (same)
1980 - 04 (same)
1980 - 07 (same)
1980 - 10 (same)
1981 - 01 (same)
1981 - 04 (same)
1981 - 07 (same)
1981 - 10 (same)
1982 - 01 (same)
1982 - 04 (same)
1982 - 07 (same)
1982 - 10 (same)
1983 - 01 " " Covered Hopper, Gravity-Pneumatic
1983 - 05 (same)
1983 - 07 (same)
1983 - 10 (same)
1984 - 01 (same)
1984 - 04 (same)
1984 - 07 (same)
1984 - 10 (same)
1985 - 01 (same)
1985 - 04 (same)
1985 - 07 (same)
1985 - 10 (same)
1986 - 01 (same)
1986 - 04 (same)
1986 - 07 (same)
1986 - 10 (same)
1987 - 01 (same)
1987 - 04 (same)
1987 - 07 (same)
1987 - 10 (same)
1988 - 01 (same)
1988 - 04 (same)
1988 - 07 (same)
1988 - 10 (same)
1989 - 01 (same)
1989 - 04 (same)
1989 - 07 (same)
1989 - 10 (same)
1990 - 01 (same)
1990 - 04 (same)
1990 - 07 (same)
1990 - 10 (same)
1991 - 01 (same)
1991 - 04 (same)
1991 - 07 (same)
1991 - 10 (same)
1992 - 01 " 3 "
1992 - 04 (same)
1992 - 07 (same)
1992 - 10 (same)
1993 - 01 " 1 "
1993 - 04 (same)
1993 - 07 (same)
1993 - 10 (same)
1994 - 01 (same)
1994 - 04 (same)
1994 - 07 (same)
1994 - 10 (same)
1995 - 01 (same)
1995 - 04 (same)
1995 - 07 (same)
1995 - 10 (same)
1996 - 01 (same)
1996 - 04 (same)
1996 - 07 (same)
1996 - 10 (same)
1997 - 01 (same)
1997 - 04 (same)
1997 - 07 Not listed

ORER Size Data
Description	1/1968	1/1983	5/1983	7/1989
AAR Mechanical Designation	LO	LO	LO	LO
Inside Dimensions	Length	39'-8"	39'-8"	39'-8"
Width	10'-7"	10'-7"	10'-7"
Height
Outside Dimensions	Length	43'	45'-6"	45'-6"	45'-6"
Width	At Eaves or top of sides or platform			8'-10"	8'-10"
Extreme Width	10'-8"	10'-8"	10'-8"	10'-8"
Height from Rail	To Extreme Width		13'-1"	8'-8"	8'-8"
To Eaves or top of sides or platform		15'-1"	14'-8"	14'-8"
To Top of Running Board
To Extreme Height	15'-1"	15'-1"	15'-1"	15'-1"
Door - Side opening	Width
Height
Capacity	Cu Ft. Level Full	3560	3560	3600	3600
Pounds	200000	200000	200000	200000

ORER History
ORER Date (Year-Mo.)	Car Numbers	# of Cars	Description
1967 - 10	5750-5754	5	Covered Hopper Note L
1968 - 01	(same)
1968 - 04	(same)
1968 - 07	(same)
1968 - 10	(same)
1969 - 01	(same)
1969 - 04	(same)
1969 - 07	(same)
1969 - 10	(same)
1970 - 01	(same)
1970 - 04	(same)
1970 - 07	(same)
1970 - 10	(same)
1971 - 01	(same)
1971 - 04	(same)
1971 - 07	(same)
1971 - 10	(same)
1972 - 01	(same)
1972 - 04	(same)
1972 - 07	(same)
1972 - 10	(same)
1973 - 01	(same)
1973 - 04	(same)
1973 - 07	(same)
1973 - 11	"	"	Covered Hopper, special interior lining
1974 - 01	"	"	Covered Hopper
1974 - 04	(same)
1974 - 07	(same)
1974 - 10	(same)
1975 - 01	(same)
1975 - 04	(same)
1975 - 07	(same)
1975 - 10	(same)
1976 - 01	(same)
1976 - 04	(same)
1976 - 07	(same)
1976 - 10	(same)
1977 - 01	(same)
1977 - 04	(same)
1977 - 07	(same)
1977 - 10	(same)
1978 - 01	(same)
1978 - 04	(same)
1978 - 07	(same)
1978 - 10	(same)
1979 - 01	(same)
1979 - 04	(same)
1979 - 07	(same)
1979 - 10	(same)
1980 - 01	(same)
1980 - 04	(same)
1980 - 07	(same)
1980 - 10	(same)
1981 - 01	(same)
1981 - 04	(same)
1981 - 07	(same)
1981 - 10	(same)
1982 - 01	(same)
1982 - 04	(same)
1982 - 07	(same)
1982 - 10	(same)
1983 - 01	"	"	Covered Hopper, Gravity-Pneumatic
1983 - 05	(same)
1983 - 07	(same)
1983 - 10	(same)
1984 - 01	(same)
1984 - 04	(same)
1984 - 07	(same)
1984 - 10	(same)
1985 - 01	(same)
1985 - 04	(same)
1985 - 07	(same)
1985 - 10	(same)
1986 - 01	(same)
1986 - 04	(same)
1986 - 07	(same)
1986 - 10	(same)
1987 - 01	(same)
1987 - 04	(same)
1987 - 07	(same)
1987 - 10	(same)
1988 - 01	(same)
1988 - 04	(same)
1988 - 07	(same)
1988 - 10	(same)
1989 - 01	(same)
1989 - 04	(same)
1989 - 07	(same)
1989 - 10	(same)
1990 - 01	(same)
1990 - 04	(same)
1990 - 07	(same)
1990 - 10	(same)
1991 - 01	(same)
1991 - 04	(same)
1991 - 07	(same)
1991 - 10	(same)
1992 - 01	"	3	"
1992 - 04	(same)
1992 - 07	(same)
1992 - 10	(same)
1993 - 01	"	1	"
1993 - 04	(same)
1993 - 07	(same)
1993 - 10	(same)
1994 - 01	(same)
1994 - 04	(same)
1994 - 07	(same)
1994 - 10	(same)
1995 - 01	(same)
1995 - 04	(same)
1995 - 07	(same)
1995 - 10	(same)
1996 - 01	(same)
1996 - 04	(same)
1996 - 07	(same)
1996 - 10	(same)
1997 - 01	(same)
1997 - 04	(same)
1997 - 07	Not listed

ORER Notes

Note L (10/1967 - 7/1973)

Cars in series 5750 to 5754 have special interior lining

Discussion, General Notes

Per Don Clerke
Built by ACF

Per NEB&W Guide IV
Center-flow hoppers

Gravity pneumatic unloading (B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 18.)

Paint Schemes

As delivered
sides/roof/ends/hoppers - light grey. ? underframe. medium sized intertwined "BM" herald (white with black outline)

References or other data

Neubauer, Eric. A History of the Center Flow (2007)

Photographs

Page Car # Photo Date
yr-mo-day Visible? Markings Paint
Scheme Herald Notes

Don Clerke inserts into B&MRRHS Bulletin
i 12 photo 33 5751 X B? BM R R N Y 2V N N N original original
Railroad Picture Archives (as of 10-Apr-2020)
Go to "By Railroad", then "Fallen Flags", then "BM" Boston & Maine section
Then "Rolling Stock Roster" → "Photographed" link, then page thru for car number
BM 5752 5752 1967-11-24 Y X B&M G G N N N N N N grey All-black intertwined BM
Fallen Flags and Other Railroad Photos (as of 15-Apr-2020)
Scroll down to the "B" section, click on the "Boston & Maine (B&M)" link
Then scroll down to find the photo. The "Page" column has the "Link" text listed
LO 5754 5754 1978-10 Y X B BM R R N N 2V N N N original original
NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "Concord, NH".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=243748
5753 1974-02 X A BM R R N Y 1 N N N 5754 to the right (partial)

Page	Car #	Photo Date yr-mo-day		Visible?	Markings	Notes

*Don Clerke inserts into B&MRRHS Bulletin*
i 12 photo 33	5751			X	B?	BM	R	R	N	Y	2V	N	N	N	original	original
Railroad Picture Archives (as of 10-Apr-2020) Go to "By Railroad", then "Fallen Flags", then "BM" Boston & Maine section Then "Rolling Stock Roster" → "Photographed" link, then page thru for car number
BM 5752	5752	1967-11-24	Y	X		B&M	G	G	N	N	N	N	N	N	grey	All-black intertwined BM
Fallen Flags and Other Railroad Photos (as of 15-Apr-2020) Scroll down to the "B" section, click on the "Boston & Maine (B&M)" link Then scroll down to find the photo. The "Page" column has the "Link" text listed
LO 5754	5754	1978-10	Y	X	B	BM	R	R	N	N	2V	N	N	N	original	original
NERail Photo Archive or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" → Then scroll thru to find the photo "Concord, NH". or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=243748
	5753	1974-02		X	A	BM	R	R	N	Y	1	N	N	N			5754 to the right (partial)

Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions

Models

Scale Manufacturer Stock number Car number Paint scheme Notes
HO Accurail #2087 5752 gray, no herald Unknown accuracy (both model and paint scheme) Still on web site Dec, 2020.
N Atlas ? 5752 gray, intertwined BM Unknown accuracy (both model and paint scheme) Listed in B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #121 (Jul-Aug 2009) with "Due in Oct". Listed as "Sold out" on their web site as of Dec 2020.
N Atlas ? 5754 gray, intertwined BM Unknown accuracy (both model and paint scheme) Listed in B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #121 (Jul-Aug 2009) with "Due in Oct". Listed as "Sold out" on their web site as of Dec 2020.
HO Atlas 20 000 468 5750 gray, intertwined BM Unknown accuracy (both model and paint scheme) Listed in B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #126 (May-Jun 2010) with "Due in Aug". Listed as "Sold out" on their web site as of Dec 2020.
HO Atlas 20 000 469 5753 gray, intertwined BM Unknown accuracy (both model and paint scheme) Listed in B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #126 (May-Jun 2010) with "Due in Aug". Listed as "Sold out" on their web site as of Dec 2020.

Per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #18 (1990), 2 Ramax twin hoppers, or a cut down Athearn Quad - probably easier to use kist above.

Scale	Manufacturer	Stock number	Car number	Paint scheme	Notes
HO	Accurail	#2087	5752	gray, no herald	Unknown accuracy (both model and paint scheme) Still on web site Dec, 2020.
N	Atlas	?	5752	gray, intertwined BM	Unknown accuracy (both model and paint scheme) Listed in B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #121 (Jul-Aug 2009) with "Due in Oct". Listed as "Sold out" on their web site as of Dec 2020.
N	Atlas	?	5754	gray, intertwined BM	Unknown accuracy (both model and paint scheme) Listed in B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #121 (Jul-Aug 2009) with "Due in Oct". Listed as "Sold out" on their web site as of Dec 2020.
HO	Atlas	20 000 468	5750	gray, intertwined BM	Unknown accuracy (both model and paint scheme) Listed in B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #126 (May-Jun 2010) with "Due in Aug". Listed as "Sold out" on their web site as of Dec 2020.
HO	Atlas	20 000 469	5753	gray, intertwined BM	Unknown accuracy (both model and paint scheme) Listed in B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #126 (May-Jun 2010) with "Due in Aug". Listed as "Sold out" on their web site as of Dec 2020.

Revision History

File History for THIS page
Date Who Description
31-Dec-2019 KG Akerboom Initial release
17-Mar-2020 KG Akerboom Standardized Don Clerke "source" link
29-Mar-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 19 more ORERs
04-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Re-did references/photos section
16-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Added more web sites: B&MRRHS Flickr, Fallen Flags, NMRA Archives, Earl Tuson. Also Scott Whitney (NMRO) CDs
23-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Updated per B&MRRHS Modeler's Notes #39
05-May-2020 KG Akerboom Moved ORER notes into separate section
21-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom "Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
05-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added Eric Neubauer data
07- thru
16-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
04-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Added "NE Rails" photos
12-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Added model info
30-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Added Atlas N models (from B&MRRHS Modelers Notes info)
28-Oct-2022 KG Akerboom Updated per [almost] complete ORER data
04-Jan-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed headers and footers...hopefully

File History for THIS page
Date	Who	Description
31-Dec-2019	KG Akerboom	Initial release
17-Mar-2020	KG Akerboom	Standardized Don Clerke "source" link
29-Mar-2020	KG Akerboom	Added data from 19 more ORERs
04-Apr-2020	KG Akerboom	Re-did references/photos section
16-Apr-2020	KG Akerboom	Added more web sites: B&MRRHS Flickr, Fallen Flags, NMRA Archives, Earl Tuson. Also Scott Whitney (NMRO) CDs
23-Apr-2020	KG Akerboom	Updated per B&MRRHS Modeler's Notes #39
05-May-2020	KG Akerboom	Moved ORER notes into separate section
21-Jul-2020	KG Akerboom	"Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
05-Aug-2020	KG Akerboom	Added Eric Neubauer data
07- thru 16-Aug-2020	KG Akerboom	Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
04-Nov-2020	KG Akerboom	Added "NE Rails" photos
12-Dec-2020	KG Akerboom	Added model info
30-Dec-2020	KG Akerboom	Added Atlas N models (from B&MRRHS Modelers Notes info)
28-Oct-2022	KG Akerboom	Updated per [almost] complete ORER data
04-Jan-2023	KG Akerboom	Fixed headers and footers...hopefully

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