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From Eric Neubauer - Bethlehem Railcar Production from 1900 to 1978
Spec Value Builder Bethlehem Steel (Johnstown) Order # ? (placed 12-1964) Lot/Reference # 3400-493 Car Numbers D&H 101-240
To: D&H 237-365
To: B&M 1237-1365
To: WC 34000-34051Quantity 140 Build Date (D&H) 06-07, 1965 AAR class HM Lt Weight 52600 (Eric Neubauer) Description Riveted twin Yellow Ilmenite hoppers Cubic Cap'y 1947 Cu. Ft. Journals 100 ton
ORER Size Data Description 10/1988 7/1989 7/2000 AAR Mechanical Designation HM HM HM Inside
DimensionsLength 30'-9" Width 9'-9" Height Outside
DimensionsLength 34'-7" 34'-7" 34'-7" Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 10'-7" 10'-7" 10'-7" Extreme Width 10'-7" 10'-7" 10'-7" Height
from
RailTo Extreme Width 12' 12' 12' To Eaves or top of sides or platform 12' 12' 12' To Top of Running Board To Extreme Height 12' 12' 12' Door - Side
openingWidth Height Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 1800 1800 1800 Pounds 200000 200000 263000
ORER History ORER Date
(Year-Mo.)Car
Numbers# of
CarsDescription 1988 - 10 1279-1364 3 Hopper, Steel 1989 - 01 1259 1 Hopper, Steel 1279-1364 3 1989 - 04 1259 1 Hopper, Steel 1279-1364 5 Hopper, Steel 1300 1 Hopper, Steel [Inside dimensions omitted] 1989 - 07 1243-1254 2 Hopper, Steel 1259 1 1279-1364 6 1989 - 10 1243-1364 16 " 1990 - 01 " 34 " 1990 - 04 1243-1364 55 Hopper, Steel 1256 1 Hopper, Steel [AAR Mech. Des. HTS] 1990 - 07 (same) (Both rows) 1990 - 10 (same) (Both rows) 1991 - 01 (same) (Both rows) 1991 - 04 1237-1241 3 Hopper, Steel 1243-1364 71 Hopper, Steel 1256 1 Hopper, Steel [AAR Mech. Des. HTS] 1991 - 07 1243-1364 19 " 1991 - 10 1243-1364 15 " 1992 - 01 (same) 1992 - 04 (same) 1992 - 07 (same) 1992 - 10 (same) 1993 - 01 (same) 1993 - 04 (same) 1993 - 07 (same) 1993 - 10 (same) 1994 - 01 (same) 1994 - 04 (same) 1994 - 07 (same) 1994 - 10 1238-1239 2 Hopper, Steel 1243-1364 27 1995 - 01 (same) (Both rows) 1995 - 04 (same) (Both rows) 1995 - 07 (same) (Both rows) 1995 - 10 (same) (Both rows) 1996 - 01 (same) (Both rows) 1996 - 04 (same) (Both rows) 1996 - 07 (same) (Both rows) 1996 - 10 (same) (Both rows) 1997 - 01 (same) (Both rows) 1997 - 04 (same) (Both rows) 1997 - 07 (same) (Both rows) 1997 - 10 (same) (Both rows) 1998 - 01 (same) (Both rows) 1998 - 04 (same) (Both rows) 1998 - 07 (same) (Both rows) 1998 - 10 (same) (Both rows) 1999 - 01 (same) (Both rows) 1999 - 04 (same) (Both rows) 1999 - 07 (same) (Both rows) 1999 - 10 (same) (Both rows) 2000 - 01 (same) (Both rows) 2000 - 04 (same) (Both rows) 2000 - 07 1238-1339 2 Hopper, Steel 1243-1364 16 2000 - 10 1238-1339 2 Hopper, Steel 1243-1364 17 2001 - 01 (same) (Both rows) 2001 - 04 (same) (Both rows) 2001 - 07 (same) (Both rows) 2001 - 10 1238-1239 2 Hopper, Steel 1243-1364 27 2002 - 01 (same) (Both rows) 2002 - 04 (same) (Both rows) 2002 - 07 (same) (Both rows) 2002 - 10 (same) (Both rows) 2003 - 01 (same) (Both rows) 2003 - 04 (same) (Both rows) 2003 - 07 (same) (Both rows) 2003 - 10 (same) (Both rows) 2004 - 01 (same) (Both rows) 2004 - 04 (same) (Both rows) 2004 - 07 (same) (Both rows) 2004 - 10 (same) (Both rows) 2005 - 01 (same) (Both rows) 2005 - 04 (same) (Both rows) 2005 - 07 (same) (Both rows) 2005 - 10 (same) (Both rows) 2006 - 01 (same) (Both rows) 2006 - 04 (same) (Both rows) 2006 - 07 (same) (Both rows) 2006 - 10 (same) (Both rows) 2007 - 01 (same) (Both rows) 2007 - 04 (same) (Both rows) 2007 - 07 (same) (Both rows) 2007 - 10 (same) (Both rows) 2008 - 01 (same) (Both rows) 2008 - 04 (same) (Both rows) 2008 - 07 (same) (Both rows) 2008 - 10 (same) (Both rows) 2009 - 01 (same) (Both rows) 2009 - 04 (same) (Both rows) 2009 - 07 (same) (Both rows) 2009 - 10 1238-1339 2 Hopper, Steel 1243-1364 26 2010 - 01 (same) (Both rows) 2010 - 04 (same) (Both rows) 2010 - 07 (same) (Both rows) 2010 - 10 Not listed 2011 - 01 1359 1 " 2011 - 04 1174-1359 " " 2011 - 07 Not listed Per Jul-2022 roster, this series had 17 remaining cars. Not registered in UMLER, restricted in interchange, "non-revenue equipment"
- Per NEB&W Guide IV
Ex D&H double hoppers, built 1966- per B&MRRHS Modeler's Notes #39
Ex D&H 241-265 [note that is room for 24 cars...the B&M had at least 55 - should range be 241-365?]- per B&MRRHS Modeler's Notes #37
Some were in service with BM reporting marks prior to the initial "1" digit being added- Mike Clements email (24-Feb-2022) confirms these were ex-D&H cars
- As Received - gray/yellow?
- After purchase, it appears the B&M never repainted these cars, they just changed the reporting marks.
Paint was left as grey (yellow? - hard to tell with all the weathering), with the "DELAWARE & HUDSON" spelled out on the car side (and "shield?" herald)- As Received - "dark"
Some (e.g. 1308) were ?black? (faded "box car red/brown"?) with D&H "Shield?" herald
Page Car # Photo Date
yr-mo-dayVisible? Markings Paint
SchemeHerald Notes Railroad Picture Archives (as of 10-Apr-2020)
Go to "By Railroad", then "Fallen Flags", then "BM" Boston & Maine section
Then "Rolling Stock Roster" → "Photographed" link, then page thru for car numberBM 1238 1238 2009-01-04 Y X A BM G G N N 3 N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1238 1238 2017-03-18 Y X B BM O O N N 3 N 3V Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1239 1239 1997-07-04 Y X B BM G G N N ? N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1239 1239 1999-05-23 Y X B BM G G N N ? N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1252 1252 2006-12-27 Y X BM G G N N ? N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1252 1252 2010-04-23 Y X A X BM G G N N ? N 3V Y As Received gray/yellow top-down view of loaded car. BM 1255 1255 1997-07-04 Y X A BM G G N Y 2V N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1255 1255 1999-05-23 Y X B BM G G N Y 2V? N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1255 1255 2008-06-30 Y X B BM G G N N ? N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1257 1257 2008-06-30 Y X B p BM O O N N ? N N Y As Received gray/yellow loaded BM 1257 1257 2009-01-04 Y X B p BM O O N N ? N N ? As Received gray/yellow BM 1257 1257 2017-03-18 Y X BM G G N N ? N 3H Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1259 1259 1997-07-04 Y X p BM G G N Y 1? N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1259 1259 1999-05-23 Y X B BM G G N Y 1? N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1279 1279 1997-07-04 Y X BM G G N Y 2V N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1279 1279 1998-04-24 Y X BM G G N Y 2V N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1279 1279 2013-04-20 Y X BM O O N N ? N 4V Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1292 1292 1997-07-04 Y X A BM G G N Y 2V N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1292 1292 1999-05-23 Y X A BM G G N Y 2V N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1292 1292 1999-08-11 Y X BM G G N Y 2V N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1292 1292 2008-02-03 Y X A BM O G N Y 2V N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1292 1292 2008-06-30 Y X A p BM O O N Y 2V N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1292 1292 2011-08-04 Y X BM O O N Y 2V N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1293 1293 1997-07-04 Y X A BM G G N N 3 N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1293 1293 1997-07-04 Y X Ap BM G G N N 3 N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1293 1293 1999-05-23 Y X A BM G G N N 3 N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1300 1300 1997-07-04 Y X p BM G G N Y 2V N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1300 1300 2017-03-18 Y X BM O O N ? 3? N 3V Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1308 1308 1996-05-02 Y X B BM G G N N 2V N N N As Received "dark" BM 1308 1308 1997-07-04 Y X A BM G G N N 2V N N N As Received "dark" BM 1308 1308 1998-05-23 Y X A BM G G N N 2V N N Y As Received "dark" BM 1312 1312 1996-11-17 Y X B BM G G N N 2V N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1312 1312 1997-07-04 Y X A? BM G G N N 2V N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1312 1312 1998-05-23 Y X A? BM G G N N 2V N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1316 1316 1996-05-02 Y X A BM G G N Y 2V N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1316 1316 1996-11-17 Y X A BM G G N Y 2V N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1316 1316 1997-07-04 Y X p BM G G N Y 2V N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1316 1316 1999-05-23 Y X B BM G G N Y 2V N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1316 1316 2011-08-11 Y X B BM G G N Y 2V N 5V Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1325 1325 2010-05-20 Y X BM O O N N 2V N 4V Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1326 1326 2017-07-03 Y X B BM O O N N 3 N 4V Y As Received "dark" BM 1338 1338 1997-07-04 Y X p BM G G N Y ? N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1338 1338 1999-05-23 Y X B BM G G N Y ? N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1338 1338 2007-10-06 Y X B X BM G G N N ? N N Y As Received gray/yellow Loaded with cut up ?utility poles? BM 1339 1339 1997-07-04 Y X Ap BM G G N Y 3 N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1339 1339 2006-06-24 Y X B BM G G N Y 3 N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1341 1341 1997-07-04 Y X A BM G G N Y 2V N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1341 1341 1999-05-23 Y X p BM G G N Y 2V N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1341 1341 2007-10-06 Y X B X BM O O N Y 2V? N N Y As Received gray/yellow Loaded with cut up ?utility poles? BM 1341 1341 2017-03-18 Y X BM O O N Y 3 N 3V Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1350 1350 1997-07-04 Y X BM G G N Y 2V N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1350 1350 1999-05-23 Y X BM G G N Y 2V N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1350 1350 2008-02-03 Y X As Received gray/yellow Night shot, almost nothing visible BM 1354 1354 1997-07-04 Y X p BM O O N Y 3 N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1354 1354 1999-05-23 Y X A BM O O N Y 3 N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1359 1359 2010-09-18 Y X A As Received gray/yellow Oblique sht, hard to read side BM 1364 1364 1997-07-04 Y X p BM G G N N 2V N N N As Received gray/yellow right-most car in photo BM 1364 1364 1997-07-04 Y X p BM G G N N 2V N N N As Received gray/yellow BM 1364 1364 1999-05-23 Y X B BM G G N Y 2V N N Y As Received gray/yellow BM 1364 1364 2007-10-06 Y X A X BM O O N Y 2V N N Y As Received gray/yellow Loaded with cut up ?utility poles? Fallen Flags and Other Railroad Photos (as of 15-Apr-2020)
Scroll down to the "B" section, click on the "Boston & Maine (B&M)" link
Then scroll down to find the photo. The "Page" column has the "Link" text listedHM 1267 1267 2004-06-13 Y X A BM G G N ? ? N Y D&H lettering showing thru HM 1316 1316 2004-06-13 Y X B BM G G N Y 2V N N Y D&H lettering showing thru HM 1328 1328 2008-06-11 Y X BM O O N Y HM 1341 1341 2004-06-14 Y X BM G ? N N 2V N N Y HM 1350 1350 2008-06-11 Y X BM G G N ? N N Y D&H lettering showing thru Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery (as of 29-Aug-2020)
"American Railroads" → "Boston & Maine"
Then scroll down to find the photo.BM 1292 2009-05-27 Y X A BM O O N N N N N Y D&H lettering showing thru NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "B&M 1350".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=1058161350 2007-12-30 Y X p BM G G N Y 2V N N Y NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "B&M 1353".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=1058141353 2007-12-30 Y X BM G G N Y? lettering very hard to read NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "MoW cars from the jurassic age".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=903681278 2006-05-21 Y X BM G G N ? 2V N N Y NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "Pan Am, Guilford, B&M, D&H hopper".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=770391339 2006-06-24 Y X B BM G G N Y 3 N N N NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "B & M (ex D & H) Hopper #1325".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=136951325 2001-05-01 Y X B? BM G G N
File History for THIS page Date Who Description 05-Jan-2020 KG Akerboom Initial release 29-Mar-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 19 more ORERs 04-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Re-did references/photos section 15-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Added more web sites: B&MRRHS Flickr, Fallen Flags, NMRA Archives, Earl Tuson. Also Scott Whitney (NMRO) CDs 22-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Updated per B&MRRHS Modeler's Notes #39 25-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Updated per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37 05-May-2020 KG Akerboom Moved ORER notes into separate section 21-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom "Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns 07- thru
16-Aug-2020KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid 29-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added "Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery" photos 08-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Added "NE Rails" photos 11-Jan-2021 KG Akerboom Individualized listings for "Railroad Picture Archives" photos 12-Oct-2021 KG Akerboom Added last 5 2010-2011 ORERs 25-Feb-2022 KG Akerboom added B&M "current" (as of Jul-2021) roster 25-Oct-2022 KG Akerboom Updated per [almost] complete ORER data 04-Jan-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed headers and footers...hopefully
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