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Builder's Photo

AC&F photo, from Westerfield Models "AC&F Photos and Data Disk" DVD (file on DVD is "4674.jpg").
Used with permission.

B&M Classification Card(s)

For more info on the classification cards and "webitizing" them, see this web page

From 1942 class book.

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From 1955 class book.

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Specifications From Classification Cards

Spec Value
Builder Rodgers Ballast Car Co. (AC&F, St. Louis)
Lot # 17 [B&M]
[per Ed Hawkins, from Al Westerfield data for car # 8924, *possibly* ACF (series 1) lot number 4674]
Looking at the lot lists on the Westerfield AC&F DVD, the Rodgers cars were listed as "built for Rodgers Ballast Car Co."
As photo has "4674" pencilled on it, it seems that these cars were lot 4674 (100 cars, 10/18/1906, Detroit, marked "WU"[Wood underframe?])
Spec # 199
Car Numbers 8900-8999
Quantity 100
Build Date 1907
AAR class HT [in ORER, MWB]
Description B&M wood-underframe Rodgers Ballast (Hart Convertible) cars
Lt Weight 36,400 (approx)
Cubic Cap'y
Cu. Ft. Cu. Yds.
As hopper, Level Full 910 33.7
As hopper, 30" heap 1,139 42.2
As gondola, Level Full 1,180 43.7
As gondola, 30" heap 1,518 56.2
Truss Rods Eight at 1¼" dia.
Trucks Arch Bar
Journals 5" x 9" (80,000 lbs nominal capacity)
Springs ARA class "C"
Center plates Spherical
Body and Truck Bolsters Steel plates with pressed diaphrams
Air Brake 8" x 12" cylinder
Coupler MCB
Coupler Yoke 5" x 7" shank, 6½" butts
Draft Gear Miner Tandem Spring
Side Bearings [no value specified]

ORER data and numbers

ORER Size Data - 1903-1910
Dimensions 6/1907
Length 36'
Width
Height
Capacity 80000

ORER Size Data - 1910-1926
Description 6/1910 2/1911 3/1911 11/1912 2/1914 11/1914 11/1922 2/1927
M.C.B. Designation MWB HT HT
Inside
Dimensions
Length 34'-2" 34'-2" 34'-0½" 34'-0½" 34' 34' 34' 34'
24'
Width 8'-8" 8'-8" 8'-8" 8'-8" 8'-7" 8'-7" 8'-7" 8'-7"
Height 3'-8" 3'-8" 4'-2" 4'-2" 4'-2" 4'-2"
Outside
Dimensions
Length 36' 36' 36' 36' 36' 36' 36' 36'
Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 9'-2" 9'-2" 9'-2" 9'-2" 9'-2" 9'-2" 9'-2" 9'-2"
Extreme Width
Height
from
Rail
To Extreme Width
To Eaves or top of sides or platform
To Top of Running Board
To Extreme Height
Door - Side
opening
Width
Height
Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 1081 1081 1001 1215 1215 1215 1215
900
Pounds 80000 80000 80000 80000 80000 80000 80000 80000

ORER History
ORER Date
(Year-Mo.)
Car
Numbers
# of
Cars
Description
1907 - 05 [count possibly included in 9000-9049 series]
1907 - 06 8900-8999 100 Coal, Rodger Ballast
1907 - 07 (same)
1907 - 08 (same)
1907 - 09 (same)
1907 - 10 (same)
1907 - 11 (same)
1907 - 12 (same)
1908 - 01 (same)
1908 - 02 (same)
1908 - 03 (same)
1908 - 04 (same)
1908 - 05 (same)
1908 - 06 (same)
1908 - 07 (same)
1908 - 08 (same)
1908 - 09 (same)
1908 - 10 (same)
1908 - 11 (same)
1908 - 12 (same)
1909 - 01 (same)
1909 - 02 (same)
1909 - 03 (same)
1909 - 04 (same)
1909 - 05 (same)
1909 - 06 (same)
1909 - 07 (same)
1909 - 08 (same)
1909 - 09 (same)
1909 - 10 (same)
1909 - 11 (same)
1909 - 12 (same)
1910 - 01 (same)
1910 - 02 (same)
1910 - 03 (same)
1910 - 04 (same)
1910 - 05 (same)
1910 - 06 (same)
1910 - 07 (same)
1910 - 08 (same)
1910 - 09 (same)
1910 - 10 (same)
1910 - 11 " 98 "
1910 - 12 (same)
1911 - 01 (same)
1911 - 02 " 98 "
1911 - 03 (same)
1911 - 04 (same)
1911 - 05 (same)
1911 - 06 (same)
1911 - 07 (same)
1911 - 08 " 97 "
1911 - 09 (same)
1911 - 10 (same)
1911 - 11 (same)
1911 - 12 (same)
1912 - 01 (same)
1912 - 02 (same)
1912 - 03 (same)
1912 - 04 (same)
1912 - 05 (same)
1912 - 06 (same)
1912 - 07 (same)
1912 - 08 (same)
1912 - 09 (same)
1912 - 10 (same)
1912 - 11 (same)
1912 - 12 (same)
1913 - 01 (same)
1913 - 02 (same)
1913 - 03 " 96 "
1913 - 04 (same)
1913 - 05 (same)
1913 - 06 (same)
1913 - 07 (same)
1913 - 08 (same)
1913 - 09 (same)
1913 - 10 (same)
1913 - 11 (same)
1913 - 12 (same)
1914 - 01 (same)
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1914 - 05 (same)
1914 - 06 (same)
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1914 - 11 (same)
1914 - 12 (same)
1915 - 01 (same)
1915 - 02 (same)
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1915 - 04 (same)
1915 - 05 (same)
1915 - 06 (same)
1915 - 07 (same)
1915 - 08 (same)
1915 - 09 (same)
1915 - 10 (same)
1915 - 11 (same)
1915 - 12 (same)
1916 - 01 (same)
1916 - 02 (same)
1916 - 03 (same)
1916 - 04 (same)
1916 - 05 (same)
1916 - 06 (same)
1916 - 07 (same)
1916 - 08 (same)
1916 - 09 (same)
1916 - 10 (same)
1916 - 11 (same)
1916 - 12 (same)
1917 - 01 (same)
1917 - 02 (same)
1917 - 03 (same)
1917 - 04 (same)
1917 - 05 (same)
1917 - 06 " 95 "
1917 - 07 (same)
1917 - 08 (same)
1917 - 09 (same)
1917 - 10 (same)
1917 - 11 (same)
1917 - 12 (same)
1918 - 01 (same)
1918 - 02 (same)
1918 - 03 (same)
1918 - 04 " 94 "
1918 - 05 (same)
1918 - 06 (same)
1918 - 07 (same)
1918 - 08 (same)
1918 - 09 (same)
1918 - 10 (same)
1918 - 11 (same)
1918 - 12 (same)
1919 - 01 (same)
1919 - 02 (same)
1919 - 03 (same)
1919 - 04 (same)
1919 - 05 (same)
1919 - 06 (same)
1919 - 07 (same)
1919 - 08 (same)
1919 - 09 (same)
1919 - 10 (same)
1919 - 11 (same)
1919 - 12 (same)
1920 - 01 " 93 "
1920 - 02 " 92 "
1920 - 03 (same)
1920 - 04 (same)
1920 - 05 " 91 "
1920 - 06 (same)
1920 - 07 (same)
1920 - 08 (same)
1920 - 09 (same)
1920 - 10 " 90 "
1920 - 11 (same)
1920 - 12 " 89 "
1921 - 01 (same)
1921 - 02 (same)
1921 - 03 " 88 "
1921 - 04 (same)
1921 - 05 " 87 "
1921 - 06 (same)
1921 - 07 (same)
1921 - 08 (same)
1921 - 09 (same)
1921 - 10 (same)
1921 - 11 (same)
1921 - 12 " 86 "
1922 - 01 " 85 "
1922 - 02 (same)
1922 - 03 (same)
1922 - 04 (same)
1922 - 05 (same)
1922 - 06 (same)
1922 - 07 (same)
1922 - 08 (same)
1922 - 09 (same)
1922 - 10 (same)
1922 - 11 (same)
1922 - 12 (same)
1923 - 01 (same)
1923 - 02 (same)
1923 - 03 (same)
1923 - 04 (same)
1923 - 05 (same)
1923 - 06 (same)
1923 - 07 (same)
1923 - 08 (same)
1923 - 09 (same)
1923 - 10 " 80 "
1923 - 11 (same)
1923 - 12 (same)
1924 - 01 (same)
1924 - 02 (same)
1924 - 03 (same)
1924 - 04 (same)
1924 - 05 " 76 "
1924 - 06 " 75 "
1924 - 07 (same)
1924 - 08 " 74 "
1924 - 09 (same)
1924 - 10 (same)
1924 - 11 " 73 "
1924 - 12 " 72 "
1925 - 01 " 70 "
1925 - 02 " 69 "
1925 - 03 " 66 "
1925 - 04 " 65 "
1925 - 05 " 63 "
1925 - 06 (same)
1925 - 07 (same)
1925 - 08 " 62 "
1925 - 09 (same)
1925 - 10 " 61 "
1925 - 11 (same)
1925 - 12 " 57 "
1926 - 01 (same)
1926 - 02 (same)
1926 - 03 (same)
1926 - 04 " 55 "
1926 - 05 (same)
1926 - 06 " 54 "
1926 - 07 " 53 "
1926 - 08 (same)
1926 - 09 (same)
1926 - 10 " 52 "
1926 - 11 (same)
1926 - 12 (same)
1927 - 01 (same)
1927 - 02 " " Coal, Rodger Ballast, Convertible
1927 - 03 (same)
1927 - 04 (same)
1927 - 05 (same)
1927 - 06 (same)
1927 - 07 (same)
1927 - 08 (same)
1927 - 09 " 51 "
1927 - 10 " 50 "
1927 - 11 (same)
1927 - 12 (same)
1928 - 01 (same)
1928 - 02 " 48 "
1928 - 03 (same)
1928 - 04 (same)
1928 - 05 " &helip; "
1928 - 06 (same)
1928 - 07 " 34 "
1928 - 08 " 33 "
1928 - 09 (same)
1928 - 10 8900-8996 29 "
1928 - 11 " 27 "
1928 - 12 " 26 "
1929 - 01 " 23 "
1929 - 02 " 20 "
1929 - 03 (same)
1929 - 04 " 17 "
1929 - 05 " 16 "
1929 - 06 (same)
1929 - 07 " 13 "
1929 - 08 " 4 "
1929 - 09 " 3 "
1929 - 10 Not listed

ORER Notes

Discussion, General Notes

Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data

Acquisition Books (1898 - 1917 only)

Volume number refers original book number
Page numbers refer to numbers on pages in original book, NOT to pages in PDF file(s)
Dates refer to first/last dates expenses were recorded in the acquisition book, NOT to car delivery dates
Car Number(s) Vol PageFirst
Date
Last
Date
Builder $ / Car Notes
8900-8999 1 121 1907-02 1907-08 Rodgers Ballast Car Co $1057

Car Books (1923-06 thru 1936-10, then 1944-05 thru 1960-03)

Volume number refers original book number
Part number refers to PDF file part as posted on B&MRRHS site
Page numbers refer to pages in PDF file(s) (L/R = Left or Right side of that PDF page)
Car Book Data Car Disposition Data
Car Number(s) Vol PartPageDate Action Location New # Notes ID Date Built Disposition
Date
Disposition
8900 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-08 Sold for Scrap
8901 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-06 Sold for Scrap
8902 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8903 1 2 5 1924-03-19 Destroyed car number suffixed with "C"?? [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8904 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-12 Sold for Scrap
8905 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-06 Sold for Scrap
8906 1 2 5 1924-03-19 Destroyed car number suffixed with "C"?? [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8907 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8908 [not listed] A 1907-03 199-03 Sold for Scrap
8909 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8910 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8911 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8912 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8913 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8914 [not listed] A 1907-03 1926-02 to W3987
8915 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-05 Sold for Scrap
8916 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8917 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8918 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-05 Sold for Scrap
8919 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-05 Sold for Scrap
8920 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-05 Sold for Scrap
8921 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8922 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-03 Destroyed
8923 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-03 Destroyed
8924 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8925 1 2 5 1924-12-05 Destroyed car number suffixed with "H"?? [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8926 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8927 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8928 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8929 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-05 Sold for Scrap
8930 [not listed] A 1907-03 1926-08 to W3985
8931 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-05 Sold for Scrap
8932 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-06 Sold for Scrap
8933 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-06 Sold for Scrap
8934 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8935 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8936 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8937 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-05 Sold for Scrap
8938 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-05 Sold for Scrap
8939 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8940 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8941 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-05 Destroyed
8942 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8943 [not listed] A 1907-03 1926-02 to W3954
8944 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-07 Sold for Scrap
8945 1 2 1 1924-12-11 Destroyed car number suffixed with "S"?? [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8946 [not listed] A 1907-03 1926-08 Sold for Scrap
8947 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-06 Sold for Scrap
8948 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-06 Sold for Scrap
8949 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8950 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-06 Sold for Scrap
8951 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-12 Sold for Scrap
8952 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8953 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8954 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8955 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-11 Sold for Scrap
8956 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-08 Sold for Scrap
8957 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-05 Sold for Scrap
8958 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-06 Sold for Scrap
8959 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8960 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-09 Sold for Scrap
8961 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8962 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8963 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-05 Sold for Scrap
8964 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-05 Sold for Scrap
8965 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8966 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-11 Sold for Scrap
8967 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8968 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-08 Sold for Scrap
8969 [not listed] A 1907-03 1926-04 to W3938
8970 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-12 Sold for Scrap
8971 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8972 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-03 Destroyed
8973 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8974 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8975 1 2 5 1924-03-19 Destroyed car number suffixed with "C"?? [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8976 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-11 Sold for Scrap
8977 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-09 Sold for Scrap
8978 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-02 Sold for Scrap
8979 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8980 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8981 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-02 Sold for Scrap
8982 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-06 Sold for Scrap
8983 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8984 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8985 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-10 Destroyed
8986 1 2 5 1924-12-22 Destroyed car number suffixed with "H"?? [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8987 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-08 Sold for Scrap
8988 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-03 Sold for Scrap
8989 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-06 Sold for Scrap
8990 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-05 Sold for Scrap
8991 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8992 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8993 1 2 5 1924-12-09 Destroyed car number suffixed with "H"?? [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8994 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8995 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-02 Sold for Scrap
8996 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-08 Sold for Scrap
8997 1 2 5 1924-11-25 Destroyed car number suffixed with "H"?? [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8998 [not listed] [not listed in "A", presumed retired before list created]
8999 [not listed] A 1907-03 1928-08 Sold for Scrap

Car Disposition Records

Source(s)
ID BoxFolderFolder nameLink Title Approx.
Start date
Approx.
End date
A 1 3 Freight Car List Old 8900 series "Hart" gondolas 1926? 1929?

ICC Valuation Data (circa 1914)

For more info on the ICC valuation data, see this web page

"Owning"
RR
Car # /
Range
Val
Sheet #
Index
on Page
Car Type Built
Date
Builder Capy Underframe Body Notes
B&M 8900-8934 BM-20 24 Ballast 1907 Rodger B.C. Co. 80 wood wood
B&M 8937-8958 BM-20 25 Ballast 1907 Rodger B.C. Co. 80 wood wood
B&M 8960-8970 BM-20 26 Ballast 1907 Rodger B.C. Co. 80 wood wood
B&M 8972-8999 BM-20 27 Ballast 1907 Rodger B.C. Co. 80 wood wood

Paint Schemes

References or other data

Photographs

PageCar # Photo Date
yr-mo-day
Visible? MarkingsPaint
Scheme
Herald Notes
AC&F photo, From Westerfield Models "AC&F Photos and Data Disk" DVD
4674.jpg 8924 1907-ish X A p S1&RRNoriginal none End looks to be in "hopper" configuration?

Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions

Models

Revision History

File History for THIS page
Date Who Description
25-Dec-2019 KG Akerboom Initial release
20-Mar-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 19 more ORERs
04-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Re-did references/photos section
05-May-2020 KG Akerboom Moved ORER notes into separate section
09-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added 1942 class cards
11-May-2020 KG Akerboom Updated class card table
14-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 4 more ORERs (1911,1919,1921,1931)
28-May-2020 KG Akerboom updated 10/1919
16-Jun-2020 KG Akerboom Added lot number from Ed Hawkins info
21-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom "Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
07- thru
16-Aug-2020
KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
10-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Added E. Neubauer ORER data (car counts only, 15 issues)
17-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Added Car Book Data
17-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Standardized formatting of Classification Card(s) section
20-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Updated 1942 Classification Card(s)
25-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Added 1955 Classification Card
19-Jan-2021 KG Akerboom Added Builder's photo and info from Westerfield DVD
28-Jan-2021 KG Akerboom Added info from "1900-1907 Freight Car Lettering Diagrams" book
10-Apr-2021 KG Akerboom Added info from 47 more ORERs 1903 thru 1917
04-Jul-2021 KG Akerboom Reorganized Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data (Car # to 1st column, 2nd/other changes to new rows)
17-Sep-2021 KG Akerboom Added car disposition record data
16-Oct-2021 KG Akerboom Added remaining 7/1928 - 10/1947 ORERs
22-Jan-2022 KG Akerboom Added ICC Valuation data
24-Apr-2022 KG Akerboom Added Patent PDF & link
14-Oct-2022 KG Akerboom Updated per [almost] complete ORER data
04-Jan-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed headers and footers...hopefully
25-Feb-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed link to scanned data (car books)

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