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ORER Size Data - 1903-1910 Description 4/1903 5/1903 Length 26 - 38' 26 - 28' Width Height Capacity (Pounds) 50000 50000
ORER Size Data - 1910-1934 Description 6/1910 2/1914 3/1914 11/1914 M.C.B. Designation GB Inside
DimensionsLength 26'-5" 26'-5" 26'-5" Width 8'-10" 8'-10" 8'-10" Height 3'-9" 3'-9" 3'-9" Outside
DimensionsLength 26-28' Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 9' Extreme Width Height
from
RailTo Extreme Width To Eaves or top of sides or platform To Top of Platform or Running Board To Extreme Height Door - Side
openingWidth Height Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 875 875 Pounds 50000 50000 50000 50000 Note these may be existing cars being renumbered into a contiguous series
ORER History ORER Date
(Year-Mo.)Car
Numbers# of
CarsDescription "New Series for B&M Cars" table of B&M RR listing 1893 - 04 6074-7999 (none) Gondola, Flat Bottom 1893 - 05 (same) 1893 - 06 (same) 1893 - 07 (same) 1893 - 08 (same) 1893 - 09 (same) 1893 - 10 (same) 1893 - 11 " 100 " 1893 - 12 (same) 1894 - 01 (same) 1894 - 02 (same) 1894 - 03 (same) 1894 - 04 (same) 1894 - 05 (same) Main "Freight Equipment" table replaces "New Series" table 1894 - 06 (same) 1894 - 07 (same) 1894 - 08 (same) 1894 - 09 (same) 1894 - 10 (same) 1894 - 11 (same) 1894 - 12 (same) 1895 - 01 (same) 1895 - 02 (same) 1895 - 03 (same) 1895 - 04 (same) 1895 - 05 (same) 1895 - 06 (same) 1895 - 07 (same) 1895 - 08 (same) 1895 - 09 (same) 1895 - 10 (same) 1895 - 11 " 300 " 1895 - 12 (same) 1896 - 01 " 316 " 1896 - 02 (same) 1896 - 03 (same) 1896 - 04 " 386 " 1896 - 05 (same) 1896 - 06 (same) 1896 - 07 (same) 1896 - 08 (same) 1896 - 09 " 393 " 1896 - 10 " 387 " 1896 - 11 (same) 1896 - 12 " 386 " 1897 - 01 " 385 " 1897 - 02 (same) 1897 - 03 (same) 1897 - 04 (same) 1897 - 05 (same) 1897 - 06 (same) 1897 - 07 (same) 1897 - 08 (same) 1897 - 09 (same) 1897 - 10 (same) 1897 - 11 (same) 1897 - 12 (same) 1898 - 01 (same) 1898 - 02 (same) 1898 - 03 (same) 1898 - 04 (same) 1898 - 05 (same) 1898 - 06 (same) 1898 - 07 " 411 " 1898 - 08 " 466 " 1898 - 09 (same) 1898 - 10 " 561 " 1898 - 11 " 618 " 1898 - 12 " 624 " 1899 - 01 " 636 " 1899 - 02 " 667 " 1899 - 03 " 686 " 1899 - 04 (same) 1899 - 05 (same) 1899 - 06 " 698 " 1899 - 07 (same) 1899 - 08 (same) 1899 - 09 (same) 1899 - 10 " 709 " 1899 - 11 (same) 1899 - 12 (same) 1900 - 01 (same) 1900 - 02 " 729 " 1900 - 03 (same) 1900 - 04 (same) 1900 - 05 (same) 1900 - 06 (same) 6074-6173 split into new series. [see that series, and see note below]
6174-7999 continue here as "Gondola, Flat Bottom"1900 - 07 6174-7999 629 " 1900 - 08 (same) 1900 - 09 " 625 " 1900 - 10 (same) 1900 - 11 (same) 1900 - 12 (same) 1901 - 01 (same) 1901 - 02 (same) 1901 - 03 (same) 1901 - 04 " 656 " 1901 - 05 " 692 " 1901 - 06 " 710 " 1901 - 07 " 740 " 1901 - 08 " 764 " 1901 - 09 " 788 " 1901 - 10 " 808 " 1901 - 11 " 807 " 1901 - 12 (same) 1902 - 01 " 862 " 1902 - 02 " 880 " 1902 - 03 " 939 " 6260-7999 now listed separately - see that series web page - listed once here for reference 1902 - 04 6174-6259 86 Gondola, Flat Bottom, 50000 lbs capacity 6260-7999 960 Gondola, Flat Bottom, 60000 lbs capacity 1902 - 05 6174-6259 " " 1902 - 06 (same) 1902 - 07 (same) 1902 - 08 (same) 1902 - 09 " 85 " 1902 - 10 (same) 1902 - 11 (same) 1902 - 12 (same) 1903 - 01 (same) 1903 - 02 (same) 1903 - 03 (same) 1903 - 04 " " Coal, Flat Bottom Gondola 1903 - 05 (same) 1903 - 06 (same) 1903 - 07 (same) 1903 - 08 (same) 1903 - 09 (same) 1903 - 10 (same) 1903 - 11 " 80 " 1903 - 12 (same) 1904 - 01 (same) 1904 - 02 (same) 1904 - 03 (same) 1904 - 04 (same) 1904 - 05 (same) 1904 - 06 (same) 1904 - 07 (same) 1904 - 08 " 85 " 1904 - 09 (same) 1904 - 10 (same) 1904 - 11 (same) 1904 - 12 (same) 1905 - 01 (same) 1905 - 02 (same) 1905 - 03 (same) 1905 - 04 (same) 1905 - 05 (same) 1905 - 06 (same) 1905 - 07 (same) 1905 - 08 " 84 " 1905 - 09 (same) 1905 - 10 (same) 1905 - 11 (same) 1905 - 12 " 83 " 1906 - 01 (same) 1906 - 02 (same) 1906 - 03 (same) 1906 - 04 " 82 " 1906 - 05 (same) 1906 - 06 (same) 1906 - 07 " 78 " 1906 - 08 (same) 1906 - 09 " 81 " 1906 - 10 (same) 1906 - 11 " 79 " 1906 - 12 " 78 " 1907 - 01 (same) 1907 - 02 " 77 " 1907 - 03 " 76 " 1907 - 04 " 75 " 1907 - 05 " 76 " 1907 - 06 " 73 " 1907 - 07 " 70 " 1907 - 08 " 83 " 1907 - 09 (same) 1907 - 10 (same) 1907 - 11 " 65 " 1907 - 12 " 63 " 1908 - 01 " 61 " 1908 - 02 " 60 " 1908 - 03 " 57 " 1908 - 04 (same) 1908 - 05 " 77 " 1908 - 06 (same) 1908 - 07 (same) 1908 - 08 (same) 1908 - 09 " 76 " 1908 - 10 (same) 1908 - 11 (same) 1908 - 12 (same) 1909 - 01 (same) 1909 - 02 (same) 1909 - 03 (same) 1909 - 04 (same) 1909 - 05 (same) 1909 - 06 (same) 1909 - 07 (same) 1909 - 08 " 77 " 1909 - 08 (same) 1909 - 09 (same) 1909 - 10 (same) 1909 - 11 (same) 1909 - 12 (same) 1910 - 01 (same) 1910 - 02 (same) 1910 - 03 (same) 1910 - 04 (same) 1910 - 05 (same) 1910 - 06 " " Flat Bottom Gondola 1910 - 07 (same) 1910 - 08 (same) 1910 - 09 (same) 1910 - 10 (same) 1910 - 11 " 76 " 1910 - 12 (same) 1911 - 01 (same) 1911 - 02 (same) 1911 - 03 (same) 1911 - 04 (same) 1911 - 05 " 74 " 1911 - 06 " 72 " 1911 - 07 " 70 " 1911 - 08 (same) 1911 - 09 " 69 " 1911 - 10 " 67 " 1911 - 11 (same) 1911 - 12 " 66 " 1912 - 01 " 65? " 1912 - 02 " 66? " 1912 - 03 " 66 " 1912 - 04 (same) 1912 - 05 (same) 1912 - 06 (same) 1912 - 07 " 64 " 1912 - 08 (same) 1912 - 09 " 63 " 1912 - 10 (same) 1912 - 11 " 62 " 1912 - 12 " 61 " 1913 - 01 " 59 " 1913 - 02 (same) 1913 - 03 " 58 " 1913 - 04 (same) 1913 - 05 (same) 1913 - 06 (same) 1913 - 07 " 57 " 1913 - 08 (same) 1913 - 09 (same) 1913 - 10 (same) 1913 - 11 " 56 " 1913 - 12 " 54 " 1914 - 01 " 53 " 1914 - 02 (same) 1914 - 03 (same) 1914 - 04 (same) 1914 - 05 (same) 1914 - 06 (same) 1914 - 07 (same) 1914 - 08 " 52 " 1914 - 09 " 49 " 1914 - 10 (same) 1914 - 11 (same) 1914 - 12 (same) 1915 - 01 (same) 1915 - 02 (same) 1915 - 03 " 48 " 1915 - 04 " 47 " 1915 - 05 (same) 1915 - 06 (same) 1915 - 07 (same) 1915 - 08 (same) 1915 - 09 (same) 1915 - 10 (same) 1915 - 11 " 45 " 1915 - 12 (same) 1916 - 01 (same) 1916 - 02 " 44 " 1916 - 03 (same) 1916 - 04 (same) 1916 - 05 " 43 " 1916 - 06 (same) 1916 - 07 (same) 1916 - 08 " 42 " 1916 - 09 (same) 1916 - 10 " 41 " 1916 - 11 " 39 " 1916 - 12 (same) 1917 - 01 " 36 " 1917 - 02 " 35 " 1917 - 03 " 32 " 1917 - 04 " 31 " 1917 - 05 " 30 " 1917 - 06 (same) 1917 - 07 " 29 " 1917 - 08 (same) 1917 - 09 (same) 1917 - 10 (same) 1917 - 11 (same) 1917 - 12 " 28 " 1918 - 01 (same) 1918 - 02 " 26 " 1918 - 03 (same) 1918 - 04 (same) 1918 - 05 " 25 " 1918 - 06 (same) 1918 - 07 (same) 1918 - 08 (same) 1918 - 09 (same) 1918 - 10 (same) 1918 - 11 (same) 1918 - 12 " 24 " 1919 - 01 6176-6259 22 " 1919 - 02 (same) 1919 - 03 (same) 1919 - 04 (same) 1919 - 05 (same) 1919 - 06 (same) 1919 - 07 (same) 1919 - 08 (same) 1919 - 09 (same) 1919 - 10 (same) 1919 - 11 (same) 1919 - 12 (same) 1920 - 01 (same) 1920 - 02 (same) 1920 - 03 (same) 1920 - 04 (same) 1920 - 05 " 19 " 1920 - 06 " 18 " 1920 - 07 (same) 1920 - 08 " 15 " 1920 - 09 (same) 1920 - 10 (same) 1920 - 11 (same) 1920 - 12 " 14 " 1921 - 01 (same) 1921 - 02 (same) 1921 - 03 6192-6253 10 " 1921 - 04 (same) 1921 - 05 (same) 1921 - 06 (same) 1921 - 07 (same) 1921 - 08 (same) 1921 - 09 (same) 1921 - 10 (same) 1921 - 11 (same) 1921 - 12 (same) 1922 - 01 " 9 " 1922 - 02 (same) 1922 - 03 (same) 1922 - 04 (same) 1922 - 05 (same) 1922 - 06 (same) 1922 - 07 (same) 1922 - 08 (same) 1922 - 09 (same) 1922 - 10 (same) 1922 - 11 (same) 1922 - 12 (same) 1923 - 01 " 8 " 1923 - 02 (same) 1923 - 03 (same) 1923 - 04 (same) 1923 - 05 (same) 1923 - 06 (same) 1923 - 07 (same) 1923 - 08 (same) 1923 - 09 " 7 " 1923 - 10 (same) 1923 - 11 (same) 1923 - 12 (same) 1924 - 01 (same) 1924 - 02 (same) 1924 - 03 (same) 1924 - 04 (same) 1924 - 05 6192-6223 6 " 1924 - 06 (same) 1924 - 07 (same) 1924 - 08 (same) 1924 - 09 (same) 1924 - 10 " 5 " 1924 - 11 (same) 1924 - 12 (same) 1925 - 01 (same) 1925 - 02 (same) 1925 - 03 (same) 1925 - 04 (same) 1925 - 05 " 4 " 1925 - 06 (same) 1925 - 07 6192-6201 3 " 1925 - 08 (same) 1925 - 09 (same) 1925 - 10 (same) 1925 - 11 (same) 1925 - 12 6199 1 " 1926 - 01 (same) 1926 - 02 (same) 1926 - 03 (same) 1926 - 04 (same) 1926 - 05 (same) 1926 - 06 (same) 1926 - 07 (same) 1926 - 08 (same) 1926 - 09 (same) 1926 - 10 (same) 1926 - 11 Not listed
- This series NEVER gets "*" indicating "Air Brakes" (1902-04 thru 1909-06)
- 3/1901 note: 6074-6173 still exist, but are now labeled "Coke, 34', 60000 lbs capacity"
I don't know if the old cars in this range were retired and these are new cars that replace them, or if the existing 6074-6173 series cars were just re-purposed (and the numbers remained the same). Note the long length (34') & capacity would SUGGEST the coke cars are new cars, but I don't know.
In any case, as they are described differently, I am treating them as a separate series of cars (see the "Renumbering" section below)- Also, per Tim Gilbert, the B&M started buying Pratt Patent "flat bottom coal cars" with the #6260-6799 series (540 cars) in 1899, with further purchases of the Pratt Patent cars in several series #6800-7480 in 1901-1902. These are NOT listed separately in the ORERs until 1903, so they are combined here.
Note: Tim referred to these as "Pratt Pattern" (the ORERs always used the ambiguous "Pat."). But in the B&M Acquisition books, they clearly state "Patent", so I am using that wording
Note also the B&MRRHS reprint of the 1900-1907 B&M freight car lettering books also clearly show "Patent" on the diagram- See the #6260 series for more info on the Pratt Patent
- From Eric Neubauer Laconia data, the following cars were built by Laconia:
- 6124-6172 (60,000 lbs, 1889, WUF, type=GC)
"GC" type implies coke racks- B&MRRHS 1900-1907 Freight Car Lettering Book No. 1 (Reprint of B&M lettering diagrams)
Note the "Book page number" below refers to the page number in the B&MRRHS book.
As the B&MRRHS book's pages are NOT numbered, "1" is the first page with an actual diagram! (NOT the title pages or index pages)
"U" = upper diagram on that page, "L" = lower diagramThe "Diagram number" refers to the circled number (lower right corner) in each diagram (the original page number)
Book page # 20 - L B&M Diagram # 38 Diagram Date 1907 Color on Diagram Brown Notes on Diagram Note "Pratt's Patent - Aug 22, 1893" lettering on the car side Datum 1900 Index 1907 Index Class of car Gondola Car Flat Bottom Gondola Car Flat Bottom Gondola Car Flat Bottom Length 30' - 32' 26'-28' 30'-32' Capacity 60,000 50,000 60,000 Car Numbers 6174-7999 6174-6259 6260-7999 Page [original] 37 38 38
Volume number refers original book number
Part number refers to PDF file part as posted on B&MRRHS site
Page numbers refer to pages in PDF file(s) (L/R = Left or Right side of that PDF page)
Car Number(s) Vol Part Page Date Action Location New # Notes 6192 1 3 7 1922-11-20 Destroyed 6194 1 1 3 1923-07-26 Destroyed 6230 1 3 7 1924-12-18 Destroyed
Source(s) Box Folder Folder name Link Title Approx.
Start dateApprox.
End date1 3 Freight Car List Old 6006-7676 Coal (gondola) 1918? 1918-1921?
Data Car Number Date Built Disposition
DateDisposition New Car # 6178 1890-07 1919-04 to 0684 6199 1890-09 1926-09 to 0491 6240 1890-08 1918-10 to 0692
For more info on the ICC valuation data, see this web page
"Owning"
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DateBuilder Capy Underframe Body Notes B&M 6175 BM-21 71 Gon - Flat bottom 1888 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6176 BM-21 86 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6178 BM-21 87 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6182 BM-21 88 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6184 BM-21 83 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 40 wood wood B&M 6187 BM-21 103 Gon - Flat bottom 1891 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6188 BM-21 104 Gon - Flat bottom 1891 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6189 BM-21 115 Gon - Flat bottom 1892-1894 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6190 BM-21 112 Gon - Flat bottom 1892 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6192 BM-21 89 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6194 BM-21 105 Gon - Flat bottom 1891 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6195 BM-21 116 Gon - Flat bottom 1892-1894 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6196 BM-21 73 Gon - Flat bottom 1889 [N/A] 40 wood wood B&M 6197 BM-21 106 Gon - Flat bottom 1891 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6198 BM-21 72 Gon - Flat bottom 1888 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6199 BM-21 90 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6201 BM-21 107 Gon - Flat bottom 1891 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6202 BM-21 91 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6207 BM-21 113 Gon - Flat bottom 1892 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6209 BM-21 114 Gon - Flat bottom 1892 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6210 BM-21 74 Gon - Flat bottom 1889 [N/A] 40 wood wood B&M 6211 BM-21 84 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 40 wood wood B&M 6213 BM-21 79 Gon - Flat bottom 1889 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6214 BM-21 92 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6215 BM-21 108 Gon - Flat bottom 1891 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6218 BM-21 93 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6219 BM-21 75 Gon - Flat bottom 1889 [N/A] 40 wood wood B&M 6222 BM-21 109 Gon - Flat bottom 1891 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6223 BM-21 80 Gon - Flat bottom 1889 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6224 BM-21 110 Gon - Flat bottom 1891 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6225 BM-21 76 Gon - Flat bottom 1889 [N/A] 40 wood wood B&M 6232 BM-21 94 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6235 BM-21 95 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6236 BM-22 1 Gon - Flat bottom 1894 [N/A] 60 wood wood B&M 6237 BM-21 96 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6239-6240 BM-21 97 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6242 BM-21 81 Gon - Flat bottom 1889 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6244 BM-22 2 Gon - Flat bottom 1894 [N/A] 60 wood wood B&M 6245 BM-21 117 Gon - Flat bottom 1892-1894 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6247 BM-21 85 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 40 wood wood B&M 6248 BM-21 98 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6249 BM-21 77 Gon - Flat bottom 1889 [N/A] 40 wood wood B&M 6251 BM-21 82 Gon - Flat bottom 1889 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6252 BM-21 99 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6253 BM-21 101 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 60 wood wood B&M 6254 BM-21 118 Gon - Flat bottom 1892-1894 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6255 BM-21 102 Gon - Flat bottom 1891 [N/A] 40 wood wood B&M 6256 BM-21 100 Gon - Flat bottom 1890 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6257 BM-21 119 Gon - Flat bottom 1892-1894 [N/A] 50 wood wood B&M 6259 BM-21 111 Gon - Flat bottom 1892 [N/A] 40 wood wood
Date Quantity New Numbers Description by 3/1901 100 6074-6173 ?Existing cars relabeled, or are these new cars?
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