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800-883 sub-class
900-999 sub-class
Does one exist?
From Neubauer, Eric.Evans Products Company Freight Car Roster Notes
Spec 800-833 900-999 Builder Evans Products (Plymouth, MI?) Lot # 1-1042 Original Lot # 736 714 Car Numbers 800-857 (leased)
858-883 (sold)900-999 (leased) Quantity 84 (26 sold) 100 Build Date Oct-Nov 1968 Jul-Aug 1968 AAR class XL Lt Weight 64,200 Description Cubic Cap'y 4980 Cu. Ft. Roof Peaked (per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37)
"Flush" (not overhanging) roof eaves.Ends Dreadnaught [rib pattern 4-3-1 bottom to top, "Banana taper"] Doors 6 panel Superior Ladders short Running Boards none Brake Gear low mounted hand brake Underframe Hydra-Cushion Misc. Equipped with DF load restraining system Floor loading 25k (from B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #18 (Jul, 1990) Leased from USLX (from B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #18 (Jul, 1990)
ORER Size Data Description 10/1968 1/1983 5/1983 AAR Mechanical Designation XL XL XL Inside
DimensionsLength 50'-6" 50'-6" 50'-6" Width 9'-4" 9'-4" 9'-4" Height 10'-6" 10'-6" 10'-6" Outside
DimensionsLength 55'-2" 57'-8" 57'-8" Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 9'-6" 9'-6" 10'-8" Extreme Width 10'-8" 10'-8" 10'-8" Height
from
RailTo Extreme Width 13'-9" 13'-9" 13'-9" To Eaves or top of sides or platform 14'-3" 14'-3" 14'-3" To Extreme Height 14'-11" 14'-11" 14'-11" Door - Side
openingWidth 10' 10' 10' Height 10' 10' 10' Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 4980 4980 4900 Pounds 154000 154000 154000
ORER History ORER Date
(Year-Mo.)Car
Numbers# of
CarsDescription 1968 - 10 900-999 100 Box, Steel (Note M) 1969 - 01 800-883 84 Box, Steel (Note M) 900-999 100 1969 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1969 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1969 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1970 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1970 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1970 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1970 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1971 - 01 800-883 84 " 900-999 99 1971 - 04 800-883 84 Box, Steel (Note M) 900-999 99 Box, Steel (Notes M, O) 1971 - 07 800-883 82 " 900-999 99 " 1971 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1972 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1972 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1972 - 07 800-883 82 " 900-999 98 " 1972 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1973 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1973 - 04 800-883 81 " 900-999 98 " 1973 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1973 - 11 800-883 81 Box, Steel, Hydra-cushion underfr., DF Belts 900-999 98 1974 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1974 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1974 - 07 800-883 80 " 900-999 98 1974 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1975 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1975 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1975 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1975 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1976 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1976 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1976 - 07 800-883 77 " 900-999 97 1976 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1977 - 01 800-883 77 " 900-999 96 1977 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1977 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1977 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1978 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1978 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1978 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1978 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1979 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1979 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1979 - 07 800-883 77 " 900-999 95 1979 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1980 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1980 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1980 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1980 - 10 800-883 77 " 900-999 94 1981 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1981 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1981 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1981 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1982 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1982 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1982 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1982 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1983 - 01 (same) (both rows) 2 individual series combined 1983 - 05 800-999 171 " 1983 - 07 (same) 1983 - 10 (same) 1984 - 01 (same) 1984 - 04 " 170 " 1984 - 07 " 169 " 1984 - 10 (same) 1985 - 01 (same) 1985 - 04 (same) 1985 - 07 (same) 1985 - 10 (same) 1986 - 01 (same) 1986 - 04 (same) 1986 - 07 (same) 1986 - 10 (same) 1987 - 01 (same) 1987 - 04 (same) 1987 - 07 (same) 1987 - 10 (same) 1988 - 01 (same) 1988 - 04 (same) 1988 - 07 (same) 1988 - 10 (same) 1989 - 01 (same) 1989 - 04 (same) 1989 - 07 (same) 1989 - 10 (same) 1990 - 01 (same) 1990 - 04 (same) 1990 - 07 (same) 1990 - 10 (same) 1991 - 01 (same) 1991 - 04 (same) 1991 - 07 (same) 1991 - 10 (same) 1992 - 01 (same) 1992 - 04 (same) 1992 - 07 (same) 1992 - 10 (same) 1993 - 01 (same) 1993 - 04 (same) 1993 - 07 (same) 1993 - 10 (same) 1994 - 01 (same) 1994 - 04 " 64 " 1994 - 07 (same) 1994 - 10 (same) 1995 - 01 (same) 1995 - 04 (same) 1995 - 07 (same) 1995 - 10 (same) 1996 - 01 (same) 1996 - 04 (same) 1996 - 07 (same) 1996 - 10 (same) Split into 3 series 1997 - 01 801-843 14 Box, Steel 860-882 12 Box, Steel, Hydra-cushion underfr., DF Belts 903-999 38 Box, Steel 1997 - 04 (same) (all 3 rows) 1997 - 07 Not listed (all 3 rows)
ORER Note M (10/1968 - 7/1973)
Cars in series [800 to 883 and] 900 to 999 are equipped with DF Belts and Hydra-cushion underframeORER Note O (4/1971 - 7/1973)
Cars numbered 972 to 976 are equipped with 70 wooden pallets, which are considered part of the car
- Per Don Clerke
[800 series] Leased [from] U.S. Railway [Equipment Co.?] - 23 owned
[900 series] Leased [from] U.S. Railway [Equipment Co.?]- Series 800-883 and 900-999 initially listed separately in ORERs.
By 1/1986, they were combined.
Then in 1/1997 thery were split into 3 groups- All cars in all series had the same dimensions at each date.
- Per Neubauer, Eric.Evans Products Comapny Freight Cars (2003) p9
The B&M 800-833; B&M 900-999; ATSF 9420-9422; and ATSF 9430-9442 are identical box cars- in Nimke, R.W. Connecticut River Railroads and Connections Volume VI: Wells River - North p157 - Train JU-1 "Train report" for 1974-01-11:
BM 997 with a load of ? [can't read, "xxx Pallets"?] for Berlin, NH
BM 916 empty for Berlin, NH
- As delivered
- per Northern New England Color Guide
blue sides, ends. unpainted (galvanized) roof. "DF/Hydracushion/DF loader" logo above car number
Door black. All-white intertwined herald (small on 800s, large on 900s)
Note: Photo of 869 (see below) appears to have a blue roof (same color as sides).
ca. 1972-05 photo posted in "realstmfc.groups.io" on 05-Feb-2022 (main subject = CNJ 20918) has what appears to be a B&M 800/900 series car at right, with "silver" (bright ungalvanized?) roof. Right end of car not visible (so I can't confirm existance/size of intertwined "BM" herald), but "unique"[?] "DF" logo appears
Page Car # Photo Date
yr-mo-dayVisible? Markings Paint
SchemeHerald Notes Northern New England Color Guide p30 911 1968-07 Y X p X BM G G N N N N N N original original 6 panel Superior door? Byron, Carl R. Trackside along the Boston & Maine 1945-1975 with Donald G Hills Morning Sun Books, 2005. ISBN 1-58248-149-0 p112 1974-01 Y X Ap BM G G N N N N N N original original very oblique view, car identified using "DF/Hydracushion/DF loader" logo
6 panel Superior doorDon Clerke inserts into B&MRRHS Bulletin i 7, photo 4 833? X A BM G G N Y 2V N N N original original i 7, photo 5 924 X BM G G N Y N N N N original original B&MRRHS Bulletin Issue included in "page" column v XXII #3 p23t 925 1976-01-28 X BM G G N N 2H N N N original original x XXIX #4 p18 919? 1982-04-22 X original original lots of rust streaks. Other B&M boxcars (? series) behind Bob's Photos (photo "number" in "page" column, collection in "Note" column) FC424 948 Y X A? original original no COTS, no ACI Railroad Picture Archives (as of 10-Apr-2020)
Go to "By Railroad", then "Fallen Flags", then "BM" Boston & Maine section
Then "Rolling Stock Roster" → "Photographed" link, then page thru for car numberBM 837 837 1978-03-23 Y X B? BM R R N Y 2H N N N original original Somewhat weathered BM 840 840 1990-08-17 Y X A BM R R N N 2H Y N N blue original Repainted - no "DF..." logo. BM 849 849 1979-04-16 Y X A BM R R N N 2H Y N N blue original Repainted - no "DF..." logo. BM 861 861 1990-04-29 Y p B 2H original? original (almost "end on" view - very hard to see side) BM 872 872 1978-08-23 Y p BM G G N original original Left &frace13; of car side. Has "DF..." logo. BM 934 934 1980-09-04 X B BM G G N Y 2H I N N original original BM 943 943 1976-01-08 Y X BM G G N Y 2H N N N original original ACI left of door BM 954 954 1990-08-17 Y X p BM G G N N 2H N N original original Weathered! Fallen Flags and Other Railroad Photos (as of 15-Apr-2020)
Scroll down to the "B" section, click on the "Boston & Maine (B&M)" link
Then scroll down to find the photo. The "Page" column has the "Link" text listedXM 803 803 1979-04 Y X p BM G G N Y 2H Y N N original original XM 828 828 1977-04-07 X p BM G G N Y 2H N N N original original XM 934 934 1980-09-04 X B BM G G N Y 2H I N N original original XM 954 954 1990-08-17 Y X p BM G G N N 2H N N original original same as "Railroad Picture Archives" photo? XM 957 957 1977-04-07 X BM G G N Y N N N N original original XM 971 971 1969-05 Y X BM G G N Y N N N N original original New B&MRRHS Flickr (as of 17-Apr-2020)
Above is direct link. If it doesn't work, try: Select "Albums" → "Cars-- Freight", then scroll thru
Title="B&M Box Cars 800 series"4 photos
scanned
as one?803? Y X p BM R R N Y 2V N N N original original Hard to read reporting marks 809 Y X B BM R R N N 2H Y N N original original 813 Y X B BM R R N N 2H Y N N original original 862 Y X A BM R R N N 2H Y N N original original NMRO (Scott Whitney) CDs/DVDs (as of 18-Apr-2020)
I will have one line (sort of) telling the CD & folder path, then individual car listings will have filename in "page" columnPath: Photos → Color-SJW → Berlin-Rt Berlin-1.tif 912 Y X,p p BM G G N original original half of the side of 912, plus all of another car in same series Path: Photos → Color-SJW → Rolling-Stock bm801.jpg 801 Y X BM R R N N 2H Y N N blue Smaller intertwined BM No "DF..." logo. Neubauer, Eric.Evans Products Comapny Freight Cars (2003) p9 869 Y X B X BM R R N N 2H Y N N original original 6 panel Superior door Rail Car Photos (as of 24-Aug-2020)
May require a login, May require a browser newer than Internet Explorer.
Several ways to get there, I "Search Photos" → "By Reporting Mark"
Scroll down and click the "Search" button to the right of the "BM" reporting marks
Then scroll down to find the photo. The "Page" column has the "Link" text listed863 1981-06-07 Y X B BM R R N N 2H Y N N blue Smaller intertwined BM Repainted - no "DF..." logo. 903 1981-06-07 Y X B BM G G N N 2H 2xY N N original original ACI painted over? *2* U-1 Yellow dots! Repainted weight data 943 1976-01-08 Y X BM G G N Y 2H N N N original original ACI left of door Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery (as of 29-Aug-2020)
"American Railroads" → "Boston & Maine"
Then scroll down to find the photo.BM 971 1969-05 Y X BM G G N Y N N N N original original Niagara Rails (as of 30-Aug-2020)
Rosters → Railcars → Expand "B" (menu on left) → BM
Then scroll to find the photo. (mostly seem to be poorer quality images of equivalent "Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery" photos)962 Y X BM G G N original original Dark photo. No ACI? 971 Y X BM G G N Y N N N N original original ACI at right end Box and Freight Cars of North America (as of 30-Aug-2020)
Select the "A-L" link → Select the "B-BM" link → B&M cars are on pp 10-11 (of 11 total)
Images on web are "thumbnails", you may have pay for higher resolution images825 1977-06 Y X BM G G N 2H original original Title = "BM, DF, Hydra Cushion 50' Single Door Boxcar, 825 June 1977"
Dark photo. No ACI?975 1970-09 Y X p BM G G N N N N N N original original Title = "BM. Boston & Maine DF Hydra-Cushion 50' Single Door Boxcar, 975 September 1970, Sofort" NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "LAME".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=177667803? 1981-05-02 Y p BM R R N blue ? Repainted - no "DF..." logo. NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "Concord, NH".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=2442409xx series? 1974-05-11 p p Y N N N N original? large intertwined BM has "DF..." logo. NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "Deerfield, MA".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=2409239xx series? 1973-09-21 p BM G G N Y N N N N original? large intertwined BM has "DF..." logo. Rail Goat web site (as of 29-Jan-2022) 943 1976-01-08 Y X BM G G N Y 2H N N N original original ACI left of door (same as Rail Car Photos image?) Herbert, R. and Povall, G Pine Trees & MinutemenGarbely Publishing Co. 2022 ISBN 978-1-7349588-9-8 p77, top 955 1980-09 Y X p BM ? ? N N 2H Y? N Blue original No "DF/Hydracushion/DF loader" logo, but does have intertwined BM herald
6 panel Superior door. Note 2 more cars in same[?] series after itp78, both
p79, both991 1980-09 Y X p p BM ? ? N N 2H Y? N Blue original No "DF/Hydracushion/DF loader" logo, but does have intertwined BM herald
6 panel Superior door. Multiple photos of same car in same train on same day. 1 has partial view of roofhttps://groups.io/g/MFCL - modern freight car list, thread posted 28-Mar-2023 titled "B&M 923 box car" initial post 923 1979 Y X p BM R R N N 2H Y N Blue repaint 4'(?)Intertwined BM Freshly Repainted - No "DF/Hydracushion/DF loader" logo, but does have intertwined BM herald 3rd reply 875 1968? Y X B BM G G N N N N N N original original has "DF..." logo. 3rd reply 803 1980? Y X p BM G G N Y 2H Y N N original original has "DF..." logo. "Bad Doors" - "Rule 1"
ACI next to intertwined BMBlodgett, BG and Richards, RR Jr. Iron Roads of the Monadnock Region Vol 3 Bauhan Publishing, 2023. ISBN 978-0-87233-368-0 p154, top 9xx 1969-06 Y X p BM G G N Blue original has "DF..." logo, large intertwined BM herald
Scale Manufacturer Stock number Car number Paint scheme Notes HO Front Range "5000 ACF 50' box" 934 ?(?) unknown accuracy. Available mid 1990s. HO Accurail 57151 925 as delivered(?) unknown accuracy. Has short ladders, no running board, and low brake wheel. per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #18 (1990), could be approximated using Robin's Raols 50' PS-1 with Details West cushion underframe. End needs to be replaced as well. Herald King decals (B-624)
Probably easier to start with one of the above models(?)
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