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Boston & Maine 800 and 900 Series Box Cars

Index

Builder's Photo

800-883 sub-class

900-999 sub-class

B&M Classification Card(s)

Does one exist?

Specifications From Eric Neubauer data, unless otherwise noted

From Neubauer, Eric.Evans Products Company Freight Car Roster Notes
Spec 800-833 900-999
Builder Evans Products (Plymouth, MI?)
Lot # 1-1042
Original Lot #736 714
Car Numbers 800-857 (leased)
858-883 (sold)
900-999 (leased)
Quantity 84 (26 sold) 100
Build Date Oct-Nov 1968 Jul-Aug 1968
AAR class XL
Lt Weight 64,200
Description
Cubic Cap'y 4980 Cu. Ft.
Roof Peaked (per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37)
"Flush" (not overhanging) roof eaves.
Ends Dreadnaught [rib pattern 4-3-1 bottom to top, "Banana taper"]
Doors 6 panel Superior
Ladders short
Running Boards none
Brake Gear low mounted hand brake
Underframe Hydra-Cushion
Misc. Equipped with DF load restraining system
Floor loading 25k (from B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #18 (Jul, 1990)
Leased from USLX (from B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #18 (Jul, 1990)

ORER data and numbers

ORER Size Data
Description 10/1968 1/1983 5/1983
AAR Mechanical Designation XL XL XL
Inside
Dimensions
Length 50'-6" 50'-6" 50'-6"
Width 9'-4" 9'-4" 9'-4"
Height 10'-6" 10'-6" 10'-6"
Outside
Dimensions
Length 55'-2" 57'-8" 57'-8"
Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 9'-6" 9'-6" 10'-8"
Extreme Width 10'-8" 10'-8" 10'-8"
Height
from
Rail
To Extreme Width 13'-9" 13'-9" 13'-9"
To Eaves or top of sides or platform 14'-3" 14'-3" 14'-3"
To Extreme Height 14'-11" 14'-11" 14'-11"
Door - Side
opening
Width 10' 10' 10'
Height 10' 10' 10'
Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 4980 4980 4900
Pounds 154000 154000 154000

ORER History
ORER Date
(Year-Mo.)
Car
Numbers
# of
Cars
Description
1968 - 10 900-999 100 Box, Steel (Note M)
1969 - 01 800-883 84 Box, Steel (Note M)
900-999 100
1969 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1969 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1969 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1970 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1970 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1970 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1970 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1971 - 01 800-883 84 "
900-999 99
1971 - 04 800-883 84 Box, Steel (Note M)
900-999 99 Box, Steel (Notes M, O)
1971 - 07 800-883 82 "
900-999 99 "
1971 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1972 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1972 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1972 - 07 800-883 82 "
900-999 98 "
1972 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1973 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1973 - 04 800-883 81 "
900-999 98 "
1973 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1973 - 11 800-883 81 Box, Steel, Hydra-cushion underfr., DF Belts
900-999 98
1974 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1974 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1974 - 07 800-883 80 "
900-999 98
1974 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1975 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1975 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1975 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1975 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1976 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1976 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1976 - 07 800-883 77 "
900-999 97
1976 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1977 - 01 800-883 77 "
900-999 96
1977 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1977 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1977 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1978 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1978 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1978 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1978 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1979 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1979 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1979 - 07 800-883 77 "
900-999 95
1979 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1980 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1980 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1980 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1980 - 10 800-883 77 "
900-999 94
1981 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1981 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1981 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1981 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1982 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1982 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1982 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1982 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1983 - 01 (same) (both rows)
2 individual series combined
1983 - 05 800-999 171 "
1983 - 07 (same)
1983 - 10 (same)
1984 - 01 (same)
1984 - 04 " 170 "
1984 - 07 " 169 "
1984 - 10 (same)
1985 - 01 (same)
1985 - 04 (same)
1985 - 07 (same)
1985 - 10 (same)
1986 - 01 (same)
1986 - 04 (same)
1986 - 07 (same)
1986 - 10 (same)
1987 - 01 (same)
1987 - 04 (same)
1987 - 07 (same)
1987 - 10 (same)
1988 - 01 (same)
1988 - 04 (same)
1988 - 07 (same)
1988 - 10 (same)
1989 - 01 (same)
1989 - 04 (same)
1989 - 07 (same)
1989 - 10 (same)
1990 - 01 (same)
1990 - 04 (same)
1990 - 07 (same)
1990 - 10 (same)
1991 - 01 (same)
1991 - 04 (same)
1991 - 07 (same)
1991 - 10 (same)
1992 - 01 (same)
1992 - 04 (same)
1992 - 07 (same)
1992 - 10 (same)
1993 - 01 (same)
1993 - 04 (same)
1993 - 07 (same)
1993 - 10 (same)
1994 - 01 (same)
1994 - 04 " 64 "
1994 - 07 (same)
1994 - 10 (same)
1995 - 01 (same)
1995 - 04 (same)
1995 - 07 (same)
1995 - 10 (same)
1996 - 01 (same)
1996 - 04 (same)
1996 - 07 (same)
1996 - 10 (same)
Split into 3 series
1997 - 01 801-843 14 Box, Steel
860-882 12 Box, Steel, Hydra-cushion underfr., DF Belts
903-999 38 Box, Steel
1997 - 04 (same) (all 3 rows)
1997 - 07 Not listed (all 3 rows)

ORER Notes

ORER Note M (10/1968 - 7/1973)

Cars in series [800 to 883 and] 900 to 999 are equipped with DF Belts and Hydra-cushion underframe

ORER Note O (4/1971 - 7/1973)

Cars numbered 972 to 976 are equipped with 70 wooden pallets, which are considered part of the car

Discussion, General Notes

Paint Schemes

As delivered
per Northern New England Color Guide
blue sides, ends. unpainted (galvanized) roof. "DF/Hydracushion/DF loader" logo above car number
Door black. All-white intertwined herald (small on 800s, large on 900s)
Note: Photo of 869 (see below) appears to have a blue roof (same color as sides).
ca. 1972-05 photo posted in "realstmfc.groups.io" on 05-Feb-2022 (main subject = CNJ 20918) has what appears to be a B&M 800/900 series car at right, with "silver" (bright ungalvanized?) roof. Right end of car not visible (so I can't confirm existance/size of intertwined "BM" herald), but "unique"[?] "DF" logo appears

References or other data

Photographs

PageCar # Photo Date
yr-mo-day
Visible? MarkingsPaint
Scheme
Herald Notes
Northern New England Color Guide
p30 911 1968-07 Y X p X BMGGNNNNNNoriginal original 6 panel Superior door?
Byron, Carl R. Trackside along the Boston & Maine 1945-1975 with Donald G Hills Morning Sun Books, 2005. ISBN 1-58248-149-0
p112 1974-01 Y X Ap BMGGNNNNNNoriginal original very oblique view, car identified using "DF/Hydracushion/DF loader" logo
6 panel Superior door
Don Clerke inserts into B&MRRHS Bulletin
i 7, photo 4 833? X A BMGGNY2VNNNoriginal original
i 7, photo 5 924 X BMGGNYNNNNoriginal original
B&MRRHS Bulletin Issue included in "page" column
v XXII #3 p23t 925 1976-01-28 X BMGGNN2HNNNoriginal original
x XXIX #4 p18 919? 1982-04-22 X original original lots of rust streaks. Other B&M boxcars (? series) behind
Bob's Photos (photo "number" in "page" column, collection in "Note" column)
FC424 948 Y X A? original original no COTS, no ACI
Railroad Picture Archives (as of 10-Apr-2020)
Go to "By Railroad", then "Fallen Flags", then "BM" Boston & Maine section
Then "Rolling Stock Roster" → "Photographed" link, then page thru for car number
BM 837 837 1978-03-23 Y X B? BMRRNY2HNNN original original Somewhat weathered
BM 840 840 1990-08-17 Y X A BMRRNN2HYNN blue original Repainted - no "DF..." logo.
BM 849 849 1979-04-16 Y X A BMRRNN2HYNN blue original Repainted - no "DF..." logo.
BM 861 861 1990-04-29 Y p B 2H original? original (almost "end on" view - very hard to see side)
BM 872 872 1978-08-23 Y p BMGGN original original Left &frace13; of car side. Has "DF..." logo.
BM 934 934 1980-09-04 X B BMGGNY2HINN original original
BM 943 943 1976-01-08 Y X BMGGNY2HNNN original original ACI left of door
BM 954 954 1990-08-17 Y X p BMGGNN2H NN original original Weathered!
Fallen Flags and Other Railroad Photos (as of 15-Apr-2020)
Scroll down to the "B" section, click on the "Boston & Maine (B&M)" link
Then scroll down to find the photo. The "Page" column has the "Link" text listed
XM 803 803 1979-04 Y X p BMGGNY2HYNN original original
XM 828 828 1977-04-07 X p BMGGNY2HNNN original original
XM 934 934 1980-09-04 X B BMGGNY2HINN original original
XM 954 954 1990-08-17 Y X p BMGGNN2H NN original original same as "Railroad Picture Archives" photo?
XM 957 957 1977-04-07 X BMGGNYN NNN original original
XM 971 971 1969-05 Y X BMGGNYN NNN original original New
B&MRRHS Flickr (as of 17-Apr-2020)
Above is direct link. If it doesn't work, try: Select "Albums" → "Cars-- Freight", then scroll thru
Title="B&M Box Cars 800 series"
4 photos
scanned
as one
?803? Y X p BMRRNY2VNNN original original Hard to read reporting marks
809 Y X B BMRRNN2HYNN original original
813 Y X B BMRRNN2HYNN original original
862 Y X A BMRRNN2HYNN original original
NMRO (Scott Whitney) CDs/DVDs (as of 18-Apr-2020)
I will have one line (sort of) telling the CD & folder path, then individual car listings will have filename in "page" column
Path: Photos → Color-SJW → Berlin-Rt
Berlin-1.tif 912 Y X,p p BMGGN original original half of the side of 912, plus all of another car in same series
Path: Photos → Color-SJW → Rolling-Stock
bm801.jpg 801 Y X BMRRNN2HYNN blue Smaller intertwined BM No "DF..." logo.
Neubauer, Eric.Evans Products Comapny Freight Cars (2003)
p9 869 Y X B X BMRRNN2HYNNoriginal original 6 panel Superior door
Rail Car Photos (as of 24-Aug-2020)
May require a login, May require a browser newer than Internet Explorer.
Several ways to get there, I "Search Photos" → "By Reporting Mark"
Scroll down and click the "Search" button to the right of the "BM" reporting marks
Then scroll down to find the photo. The "Page" column has the "Link" text listed
863 1981-06-07 Y X B BMRRNN2HYNNblue Smaller intertwined BM Repainted - no "DF..." logo.
903 1981-06-07 Y X B BMGGNN2H2xYNNoriginal original ACI painted over? *2* U-1 Yellow dots! Repainted weight data
943 1976-01-08 Y X BMGGNY2HNNNoriginal original ACI left of door
Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery (as of 29-Aug-2020)
"American Railroads" → "Boston & Maine"
Then scroll down to find the photo.
BM 971 1969-05 Y X BMGGNYNNNNoriginal original
Niagara Rails (as of 30-Aug-2020)
Rosters → Railcars → Expand "B" (menu on left) → BM
Then scroll to find the photo. (mostly seem to be poorer quality images of equivalent "Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery" photos)
962 Y X BMGGN original original Dark photo. No ACI?
971 Y X BMGGNYNNNNoriginal original ACI at right end
Box and Freight Cars of North America (as of 30-Aug-2020)
Select the "A-L" link → Select the "B-BM" link → B&M cars are on pp 10-11 (of 11 total)
Images on web are "thumbnails", you may have pay for higher resolution images
825 1977-06 Y X BMGGN 2H original original Title = "BM, DF, Hydra Cushion 50' Single Door Boxcar, 825 June 1977"
Dark photo. No ACI?
975 1970-09 Y X p BMGGNNNNNNoriginal original Title = "BM. Boston & Maine DF Hydra-Cushion 50' Single Door Boxcar, 975 September 1970, Sofort"
NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "LAME".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=177667
803? 1981-05-02 Y p BMRRNblue ? Repainted - no "DF..." logo.
NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "Concord, NH".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=244240
9xx series? 1974-05-11 p p YNNNNoriginal? large intertwined BM has "DF..." logo.
NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "Deerfield, MA".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=240923
9xx series? 1973-09-21 p BMGGNYNNNNoriginal? large intertwined BM has "DF..." logo.
Rail Goat web site (as of 29-Jan-2022)
943 1976-01-08 Y X BMGGNY2HNNNoriginal original ACI left of door (same as Rail Car Photos image?)
Herbert, R. and Povall, G Pine Trees & MinutemenGarbely Publishing Co. 2022 ISBN 978-1-7349588-9-8
p77, top 955 1980-09 Y X p BM??NN2HY?NBlue original No "DF/Hydracushion/DF loader" logo, but does have intertwined BM herald
6 panel Superior door. Note 2 more cars in same[?] series after it
p78, both
p79, both
991 1980-09 Y X p p BM??NN2HY?NBlue original No "DF/Hydracushion/DF loader" logo, but does have intertwined BM herald
6 panel Superior door. Multiple photos of same car in same train on same day. 1 has partial view of roof
https://groups.io/g/MFCL - modern freight car list, thread posted 28-Mar-2023 titled "B&M 923 box car"
initial post923 1979 Y X p BMRRNN2HYNBlue repaint 4'(?)Intertwined BM Freshly Repainted - No "DF/Hydracushion/DF loader" logo, but does have intertwined BM herald
3rd reply 875 1968? Y X B BMGGNNNNNNoriginal original has "DF..." logo.
3rd reply 803 1980? Y X p BMGGNY2HYNNoriginal original has "DF..." logo. "Bad Doors" - "Rule 1"
ACI next to intertwined BM

Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions

Models

Scale Manufacturer Stock number Car number Paint scheme Notes
HO Front Range "5000 ACF 50' box" 934 ?(?) unknown accuracy. Available mid 1990s.
HO Accurail 57151 925 as delivered(?) unknown accuracy. Has short ladders, no running board, and low brake wheel.

per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #18 (1990), could be approximated using Robin's Raols 50' PS-1 with Details West cushion underframe. End needs to be replaced as well. Herald King decals (B-624)
Probably easier to start with one of the above models(?)

Revision History

File History for THIS page
Date Who Description
14-Dec-2019 KG Akerboom Initial release
17-Mar-2020 KG Akerboom Standardized Don Clerke "source" link
28-Mar-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 19 more ORERs
04-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Re-did references/photos section
15-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Added more web sites: B&MRRHS Flickr, Fallen Flags, NMRA Archives, Earl Tuson. Also Scott Whitney (NMRO) CDs
22-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Updated per B&MRRHS Modeler's Notes #39
25-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Updated per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37
26-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Changed B&MRRHS Flickr to direct link
05-May-2020 KG Akerboom Moved ORER notes into separate section
21-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom "Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
08-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added Eric Neubauer data.
07- thru
16-Aug-2020
KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
18-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added more Eric Neubauer data.
25-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added "Rail Car Photos" web site photos
29-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added "Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery" photos
30-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added "Niagara Rails" photos
30-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added "Box and Freight Cars of North America" photos
06-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Added "NE Rails" photos
12-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Added model info
30-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Added Front Range model, MR "Paint Shop" reference
03-Jan-2021 KG Akerboom Misc updates.
07-Mar-2021 KG Akerboom Updated "Box and Freight Cars of North America" photos
12-Mar-2021 KG Akerboom Added NERail photos
29-Jan-2022 KG Akerboom Added "Rail Goat" web site photos
05-Feb-2022 KG Akerboom Added paint scheme info (photo)
10-Mar-2022 KG Akerboom Added "Pine Trees & Minutemen" photos
01-Nov-2022 KG Akerboom Updated per [almost] complete ORER data
12-Dec-2022 KG Akerboom Added photo(s)/car listings from Nimke, "Conn. River RRs: Vol VI"
04-Jan-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed headers and footers...hopefully
29-Mar-2023 KG Akerboom Added mfcl@groups.io photos

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