Boston & Maine 80000 Series Box Cars

Index

Builder's Photo
Classification Card(s) for series
Specifications
ORER data
ORER Notes
Discussion, General Notes
Paint Schemes
References
Photographs
Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions
Modeling
Revision History of this page

Builder's Photo

Does one exist?

B&M Classification Card(s)

Does one exist?

Specifications From Classification Cards

?

Spec Value
Builder FMC (B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 18, 39)
Lot #
Car Numbers
Quantity
Build Date 1979
AAR class
Lt Weight (average)
Description
Cubic Cap'y Cu. Ft.
Roof Peaked (per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37)
Ends
Sides 12 rib (per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37)
Doors Youngstown (per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37)
Ladders
Running Boards
Underframe Keystone Cushion (B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 18.)
Elsewhere in same MN it is referred to as "Keystone Sliding Centersill"
Jacking pads "under sill" (per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 18.)

Spec	Value
Builder	FMC (B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 18, 39)
Lot #
Car Numbers
Quantity
Build Date	1979
AAR class
Lt Weight	(average)
Description
Cubic Cap'y	Cu. Ft.
Roof	Peaked (per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37)
Ends
Sides	12 rib (per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37)
Doors	Youngstown (per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37)
Ladders
Running Boards
Underframe	Keystone Cushion (B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 18.) Elsewhere in same MN it is referred to as "Keystone Sliding Centersill"
Jacking pads	"under sill" (per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 18.)

ORER data and numbers

ORER Size Data
Description 1/1980 1/1983 5/1983 7/2000
AAR Mechanical Designation XP XP XP XP
Inside
Dimensions Length 50'-6" 50'-6" 50'-6" 50'-6"
Width 9'-6" 9'-6" 9'-6" 9'-6"
Height 10'-11" 10'-11" 10'-11" 10'-11"
Outside
Dimensions Length 59'-1" 59'-1" 59'-1" 59'-1"
Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 9'-7" 9'-7" 10' 10'
Extreme Width 10'-7" 10'-7" 10'-7" 10'-7"
Height
from
Rail To Extreme Width 13'-3" 13'-3" 13'-3" 13'-3"
To Eaves or top of sides or platform 14'-9" 14'-9" 14'-9" 14'-9"
To Extreme Height 15'-4" 15'-4" 15'-4" 15'-4"
Door - Side
opening Width 10' 10' 10' 10'
Height 10'-5" 10'-5" 10'-5" 10'-5"
Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 5272 5235 5235 5235
Pounds 188000 185000 185000 263000 (GRL)

ORER History
ORER Date
(Year-Mo.) Car
Numbers # of
Cars Description
1980 - 01 80000-80024 25 Box, Steel, Cushion Underframe, Designed for special loading
(Newsprint Service), Not for general use, 50K [floor loading] "Plate C"
1980 - 04 (same)
1980 - 07 (same)
1980 - 10 (same)
1981 - 01 (same)
1981 - 04 (same)
1981 - 07 (same)
1981 - 10 (same)
1982 - 01 (same)
1982 - 04 (same)
1982 - 07 " 24 "
1982 - 10 (same)
1983 - 01 " " Box, Steel, 20" Travel Shock Control Cushion Underframe,
(Newsprint Service), Not for general use, 50K C
1983 - 05 (same)
1983 - 07 (same)
1983 - 10 (same)
1984 - 01 (same)
1984 - 04 (same)
1984 - 07 (same)
1984 - 10 (same)
1985 - 01 (same)
1985 - 04 (same)
1985 - 07 (same)
1985 - 10 (same)
1986 - 01 (same)
1986 - 04 (same)
1986 - 07 (same)
1986 - 10 (same)
1987 - 01 (same)
1987 - 04 (same)
1987 - 07 (same)
1987 - 10 (same)
1988 - 01 (same)
1988 - 04 (same)
1988 - 07 (same)
1988 - 10 (same)
1989 - 01 (same)
1989 - 04 (same)
1989 - 07 (same)
1989 - 10 (same)
1990 - 01 (same)
1990 - 04 (same)
1990 - 07 (same)
1990 - 10 (same)
1991 - 01 (same)
1991 - 04 (same)
1991 - 07 (same)
1991 - 10 (same)
1992 - 01 (same)
1992 - 04 (same)
1992 - 07 (same)
1992 - 10 (same)
1993 - 01 (same)
1993 - 04 (same)
1993 - 07 (same)
1993 - 10 (same)
1994 - 01 (same)
1994 - 04 (same)
1994 - 07 (same)
1994 - 10 (same)
1995 - 01 (same)
1995 - 04 (same)
1995 - 07 (same)
1995 - 10 80000-80024 21 Box, Steel, 20" Travel Shock Control Cushion Underframe,
(Newsprint Service), Not for general use, 50K "C"
80016,80018 2 Box, Steel "C" [dim's same except capy = 189]
80020 1 Box, Steel "C" [dim's same except capy = 190]
1996 - 01 (same) (all 3 rows)
1996 - 04 (same) (all 3 rows)
1996 - 07 (same) (all 3 rows)
1996 - 10 (same) (all 3 rows)
1997 - 01 (same) (all 3 rows)
1997 - 04 (same) (all 3 rows)
1997 - 07 (same) (all 3 rows)
1997 - 10 (same) (all 3 rows)
1998 - 01 (same) (all 3 rows)
1998 - 04 (same) (all 3 rows)
1998 - 07 (same) (all 3 rows)
1998 - 10 (same) (all 3 rows)
1999 - 01 (same) (all 3 rows)
1999 - 04 (same) (all 3 rows)
1999 - 07 (same) (all 3 rows)
1999 - 10 (same) (all 3 rows)
2000 - 01 (same) (all 3 rows)
2000 - 04 80000-80024 1 Box, Steel, 20'' Travel Shock Control Cushion Underframe,
(Paper Service), Not for general use, 50K "C"
80016 1 Box, Steel "C" [dim's same except capy = 189]
2000 - 07 80000-80024 2 Box, Steel, 20'' Travel Shock Control Cushion Underframe,
(Paper Service), Not for general use, 50K "C"
2000 - 10 Not listed

ORER Size Data
Description	1/1980	1/1983	5/1983	7/2000
AAR Mechanical Designation	XP	XP	XP	XP
Inside Dimensions	Length	50'-6"	50'-6"	50'-6"	50'-6"
Width	9'-6"	9'-6"	9'-6"	9'-6"
Height	10'-11"	10'-11"	10'-11"	10'-11"
Outside Dimensions	Length	59'-1"	59'-1"	59'-1"	59'-1"
Width	At Eaves or top of sides or platform	9'-7"	9'-7"	10'	10'
Extreme Width	10'-7"	10'-7"	10'-7"	10'-7"
Height from Rail	To Extreme Width	13'-3"	13'-3"	13'-3"	13'-3"
To Eaves or top of sides or platform	14'-9"	14'-9"	14'-9"	14'-9"
To Extreme Height	15'-4"	15'-4"	15'-4"	15'-4"
Door - Side opening	Width	10'	10'	10'	10'
Height	10'-5"	10'-5"	10'-5"	10'-5"
Capacity	Cu Ft. Level Full	5272	5235	5235	5235
Pounds	188000	185000	185000	263000 (GRL)

ORER History
ORER Date (Year-Mo.)	Car Numbers	# of Cars	Description
1980 - 01	80000-80024	25	Box, Steel, Cushion Underframe, Designed for special loading (Newsprint Service), Not for general use, 50K [floor loading] "Plate C"
1980 - 04	(same)
1980 - 07	(same)
1980 - 10	(same)
1981 - 01	(same)
1981 - 04	(same)
1981 - 07	(same)
1981 - 10	(same)
1982 - 01	(same)
1982 - 04	(same)
1982 - 07	"	24	"
1982 - 10	(same)
1983 - 01	"	"	Box, Steel, 20" Travel Shock Control Cushion Underframe, (Newsprint Service), Not for general use, 50K C
1983 - 05	(same)
1983 - 07	(same)
1983 - 10	(same)
1984 - 01	(same)
1984 - 04	(same)
1984 - 07	(same)
1984 - 10	(same)
1985 - 01	(same)
1985 - 04	(same)
1985 - 07	(same)
1985 - 10	(same)
1986 - 01	(same)
1986 - 04	(same)
1986 - 07	(same)
1986 - 10	(same)
1987 - 01	(same)
1987 - 04	(same)
1987 - 07	(same)
1987 - 10	(same)
1988 - 01	(same)
1988 - 04	(same)
1988 - 07	(same)
1988 - 10	(same)
1989 - 01	(same)
1989 - 04	(same)
1989 - 07	(same)
1989 - 10	(same)
1990 - 01	(same)
1990 - 04	(same)
1990 - 07	(same)
1990 - 10	(same)
1991 - 01	(same)
1991 - 04	(same)
1991 - 07	(same)
1991 - 10	(same)
1992 - 01	(same)
1992 - 04	(same)
1992 - 07	(same)
1992 - 10	(same)
1993 - 01	(same)
1993 - 04	(same)
1993 - 07	(same)
1993 - 10	(same)
1994 - 01	(same)
1994 - 04	(same)
1994 - 07	(same)
1994 - 10	(same)
1995 - 01	(same)
1995 - 04	(same)
1995 - 07	(same)
1995 - 10	80000-80024	21	Box, Steel, 20" Travel Shock Control Cushion Underframe, (Newsprint Service), Not for general use, 50K "C"
80016,80018	2	Box, Steel "C" [dim's same except capy = 189]
80020	1	Box, Steel "C" [dim's same except capy = 190]
1996 - 01	(same) (all 3 rows)
1996 - 04	(same) (all 3 rows)
1996 - 07	(same) (all 3 rows)
1996 - 10	(same) (all 3 rows)
1997 - 01	(same) (all 3 rows)
1997 - 04	(same) (all 3 rows)
1997 - 07	(same) (all 3 rows)
1997 - 10	(same) (all 3 rows)
1998 - 01	(same) (all 3 rows)
1998 - 04	(same) (all 3 rows)
1998 - 07	(same) (all 3 rows)
1998 - 10	(same) (all 3 rows)
1999 - 01	(same) (all 3 rows)
1999 - 04	(same) (all 3 rows)
1999 - 07	(same) (all 3 rows)
1999 - 10	(same) (all 3 rows)
2000 - 01	(same) (all 3 rows)
2000 - 04	80000-80024	1	Box, Steel, 20'' Travel Shock Control Cushion Underframe, (Paper Service), Not for general use, 50K "C"
80016	1	Box, Steel "C" [dim's same except capy = 189]
2000 - 07	80000-80024	2	Box, Steel, 20'' Travel Shock Control Cushion Underframe, (Paper Service), Not for general use, 50K "C"
2000 - 10	Not listed

ORER Notes

Discussion, General Notes

per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #18 (Jul, 1990) note 15:
Keystone cushion underframe

Paint Schemes

As delivered?
blue sides/ends unpainted (silver/galvanized) roof, black door.
Underframe below car sides (tabs/fishbelly/side sill) also blue, rest of underframe black
I believe COTS stencil was included in "as delivered" paint scheme
"Boston & Maine" in 3 lines on right end of car side, aligned as shown (vertical lines are ribs):

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References or other data

Magazine/Book article(s)

Photographs

Page Car # Photo Date
yr-mo-day Visible? Markings Paint
Scheme Herald Notes

B&MRRHS Modelers Notes Issue No. included in "page" column
No 18 p2 80023 1985 X p BM G G N 2V N N original original
No 18 p2 80007 1985 p A original original oblique end detail shot, only 1 panel visible on side
No 18 p2 80023 1985 X p BM G G N 2V N N original original
No 18 p2 80007 + unidentified 1985 X ? BM G G N 2V N N original original Detail view. Left end of 80007's side (3 panels)
right end (3 panels) of ? side
Railroad Picture Archives (as of 10-Apr-2020)
Go to "By Railroad", then "Fallen Flags", then "BM" Boston & Maine section
Then "Rolling Stock Roster" → "Photographed" link, then page thru for car number
BM 80000 80000 1990-02-18 Y X BM G G N 2V N N original original
BM 80006 80006 1980-02-24 Y X BM G G N N 2V N N N original original
BM 80009 80009 1990-04-22 Y X Bp BM G G N N 2V N N original original
BM 80015 80015 1990-04-22 Y X A BM G G N N 2V N N N original original
BM 80023 80023 1990-04-22 Y X p BM G G N N 2V N N N original original
BM 80023 80023 1990-04-22 Y X p BM G G N N 2V N N N original original detail pictures of lettering at left
BM 80023 80023 1990-04-22 Y X p BM G G N N 2V N N N original original detail pictures of lettering - builder's mark
BM 80023 80023 1990-04-22 Y X p BM G G N N 2V N N N original original detail pictures of lettering - COTS
Fallen Flags and Other Railroad Photos (as of 15-Apr-2020)
Scroll down to the "B" section, click on the "Boston & Maine (B&M)" link
Then scroll down to find the photo. The "Page" column has the "Link" text listed
XP 80006 80006 1980-02-24 Y X BM G G N N 2V N N N original original same picture as Railroad Picture Archives?
XM 80018 80018 1990-03-04 Y X A BM G G N N 2V N N N original original
XM 80021 80021 1991-11 Y p A BM G G N N 2V N N N original original
XP 80022 80022 1987-04 Y X p BM G G N N 2V N N N original original
Niagara Rails (as of 30-Aug-2020)
Rosters → Railcars → Expand "B" (menu on left) → BM
Then scroll to find the photo. (mostly seem to be poorer quality images of equivalent "Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery" photos)
80000 Y X BM G G N N 2V N N N original original CAPY painted over
Highball Graphics
N/HO/O scale decals, but they have a couple prototype pictures
Web site doesn't seem to work very well with Internet Explorer, use a newer browser.
From main page, "check" (under "Railroad" list at left) the "Boston & Maine" → "Boston & Maine Blue w/ Black Dr. FMC 50' Boxcars [N / HO / O] Scale" (scale doesn't matter, they have same photos on all)
80018 ? Y X A BM G G N N 2V Y N N original original

Page	Car #	Photo Date yr-mo-day		Visible?	Markings	Notes

*B&MRRHS Modelers Notes* Issue No. included in "page" column
No 18 p2	80023	1985		X	p	BM	G	G	N		2V	N	N		original	original
No 18 p2	80007	1985		p	A										original	original	oblique end detail shot, only 1 panel visible on side
No 18 p2	80023	1985		X	p	BM	G	G	N		2V	N	N		original	original
No 18 p2	80007 + unidentified	1985		X	?	BM	G	G	N		2V	N	N		original	original	Detail view. Left end of 80007's side (3 panels) right end (3 panels) of ? side
Railroad Picture Archives (as of 10-Apr-2020) Go to "By Railroad", then "Fallen Flags", then "BM" Boston & Maine section Then "Rolling Stock Roster" → "Photographed" link, then page thru for car number
BM 80000	80000	1990-02-18	Y	X		BM	G	G	N		2V	N	N		original	original
BM 80006	80006	1980-02-24	Y	X		BM	G	G	N	N	2V	N	N	N	original	original
BM 80009	80009	1990-04-22	Y	X	Bp	BM	G	G	N	N	2V	N	N		original	original
BM 80015	80015	1990-04-22	Y	X	A	BM	G	G	N	N	2V	N	N	N	original	original
BM 80023	80023	1990-04-22	Y	X	p	BM	G	G	N	N	2V	N	N	N	original	original
BM 80023	80023	1990-04-22	Y	X	p	BM	G	G	N	N	2V	N	N	N	original	original	detail pictures of lettering at left
BM 80023	80023	1990-04-22	Y	X	p	BM	G	G	N	N	2V	N	N	N	original	original	detail pictures of lettering - builder's mark
BM 80023	80023	1990-04-22	Y	X	p	BM	G	G	N	N	2V	N	N	N	original	original	detail pictures of lettering - COTS
Fallen Flags and Other Railroad Photos (as of 15-Apr-2020) Scroll down to the "B" section, click on the "Boston & Maine (B&M)" link Then scroll down to find the photo. The "Page" column has the "Link" text listed
XP 80006	80006	1980-02-24	Y	X		BM	G	G	N	N	2V	N	N	N	original	original	same picture as Railroad Picture Archives?
XM 80018	80018	1990-03-04	Y	X	A	BM	G	G	N	N	2V	N	N	N	original	original
XM 80021	80021	1991-11	Y	p	A	BM	G	G	N	N	2V	N	N	N	original	original
XP 80022	80022	1987-04	Y	X	p	BM	G	G	N	N	2V	N	N	N	original	original
Niagara Rails (as of 30-Aug-2020) Rosters → Railcars → Expand "B" (menu on left) → BM Then scroll to find the photo. (mostly seem to be poorer quality images of equivalent "Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery" photos)
	80000		Y	X		BM	G	G	N	N	2V	N	N	N	original	original	CAPY painted over
Highball Graphics N/HO/O scale decals, but they have a couple prototype pictures Web site doesn't seem to work very well with Internet Explorer, use a newer browser. From main page, "check" (under "Railroad" list at left) the "Boston & Maine" → "Boston & Maine Blue w/ Black Dr. FMC 50' Boxcars [N / HO / O] Scale" (scale doesn't matter, they have same photos on all)
	80018	?	Y	X	A	BM	G	G	N	N	2V	Y	N	N	original	original

Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions

Models

Scale Manufacturer Stock number Car number Paint scheme Notes
HO Accurail 5620 80023 as delivered "Exterior Post Welded Side Steel Boxcars"
unknown accuracy. Some differences in side sill construction. I believe "sold out" as of Dec, 2020
N Micro Trains 510 00 170 80023 Pan Am unknown accuracy. Mentioned in B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #109 (Jul-Aug 2007). Not shown on their web site as of Dec 2020.

The B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #18 (1990) suggests using an Athearn Railbox with Herald King B-625 decals.
The B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #20 (Jan 1991) suggests using MDC "1950 series" FMC boxcar as a starting point.

Scale	Manufacturer	Stock number	Car number	Paint scheme	Notes
HO	Accurail	5620	80023	as delivered	"Exterior Post Welded Side Steel Boxcars" unknown accuracy. Some differences in side sill construction. I believe "sold out" as of Dec, 2020
N	Micro Trains	510 00 170	80023	Pan Am	unknown accuracy. Mentioned in B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #109 (Jul-Aug 2007). Not shown on their web site as of Dec 2020.

Revision History

File History for THIS page
Date Who Description
21-Jul-2019 KG Akerboom Initial release
29-Mar-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 19 more ORERs
04-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Re-did references/photos section
17-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Added more web sites: B&MRRHS Flickr, Fallen Flags, NMRA Archives, Earl Tuson. Also Scott Whitney (NMRO) CDs
22-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Updated per B&MRRHS Modeler's Notes #39
25-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Updated per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37
05-May-2020 KG Akerboom Moved ORER notes into separate section
21-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom "Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
07- thru
16-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
30-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added "Niagara Rails" photos
12-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Added model info
23-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Added photos from Highball Graphics decals site
29-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Added Modelers Notes data
30-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Added Micro Trains car (from Modelers Notes info)
01-Nov-2022 KG Akerboom Updated per [almost] complete ORER data
04-Jan-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed headers and footers...hopefully

File History for THIS page
Date	Who	Description
21-Jul-2019	KG Akerboom	Initial release
29-Mar-2020	KG Akerboom	Added data from 19 more ORERs
04-Apr-2020	KG Akerboom	Re-did references/photos section
17-Apr-2020	KG Akerboom	Added more web sites: B&MRRHS Flickr, Fallen Flags, NMRA Archives, Earl Tuson. Also Scott Whitney (NMRO) CDs
22-Apr-2020	KG Akerboom	Updated per B&MRRHS Modeler's Notes #39
25-Apr-2020	KG Akerboom	Updated per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37
05-May-2020	KG Akerboom	Moved ORER notes into separate section
21-Jul-2020	KG Akerboom	"Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
07- thru 16-Aug-2020	KG Akerboom	Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
30-Aug-2020	KG Akerboom	Added "Niagara Rails" photos
12-Dec-2020	KG Akerboom	Added model info
23-Dec-2020	KG Akerboom	Added photos from Highball Graphics decals site
29-Dec-2020	KG Akerboom	Added Modelers Notes data
30-Dec-2020	KG Akerboom	Added Micro Trains car (from Modelers Notes info)
01-Nov-2022	KG Akerboom	Updated per [almost] complete ORER data
04-Jan-2023	KG Akerboom	Fixed headers and footers...hopefully

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