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Evans Products Co (SIECO) Photo, James Kinkaid Collection, used with permission (cropped to car) (click on image to see full resolution available)
Does one exist?
Neubauer, Eric.Evans Products Builder's photographs
and Neubauer, Eric.Evans Products Company Freight Car Roster Notes
Spec Value Builder SEICO (Atlanta) Lot # 1226-01 (W.O. 1212) Car Numbers 78000-78599 (leased) Quantity 600 Build Date 10-1973 thru 4-1974 AAR class XM Lt Weight 56,700 Description Leased. Cubic Cap'y 5077 Cu. Ft. Roof 9 panels, overhanging eaves, "X" shaped ribs in the panels
Peaked (per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37)Ends "Inset" Dreadnaught [rib pattern 4-3-1 bottom to top, "Banana taper"] Sides 14 ribs (per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37) Doors 6 panel Superior (per builder's photograph, Eric Neubauer)
Youngstown (per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37)Ladders low (not full height) Running Boards none Brake Gear low mount
Seico Boxcar identifying features: Detail 78000 thru 78356+ 78388 [or earlier] thru 78599 Plate B B Corner Post Riveted Riveted Side Plate No Hole No Hole Side Sill Reinforced, short Reinforced, short Side Stake 12 regular + 2 "wide" ladder panel
[? not sure what this means, compared to photo]12 regular + 2 "wide" ladder panel Sill Step Wide Rectangular Wide Rectangular Door 10' Superior 10' Superior ?or Youngstown? End "Inset" Dreadnaught.
Long x-hold support"Inset" Dreadnaught.
Short x-hold supportRoof 9 oh X
[? not sure what this means]9 oh X Cushion? none none
ORER Size Data Description 11/1973 1/1983 5/1983 AAR Mechanical Designation XM XM XM Inside
DimensionsLength 50'-6" 50'-6" 50'-6" Width 9'-6" 9'-6" 9'-6" Height 10'-7" 10'-7" 10'-7" Outside
DimensionsLength 55'-7" 55'-7" 55'-7" Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 10' 10' 10' Extreme Width 10'-8" 10'-8" 10'-8" Height
from
RailTo Extreme Width 5'-6" 5'-6" 5'-6" To Eaves or top of sides or platform 14' 14' 14'-4" To Extreme Height 15' 15' 15' Door - Side
openingWidth 10' 10' 10' Height 9'-11" 9'-11" 9'-11" Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 5100 5075 5075 Pounds 154000 154000 154000
ORER History ORER Date
(Year-Mo.)Car
Numbers# of
CarsDescription 1973 - 11 78000-78599 600 Box, Steel 1974 - 01 (same) 1974 - 04 (same) 1974 - 07 (same) 1974 - 10 " " Box, Steel, 50K [floor loading] 1975 - 01 (same) 1975 - 04 " 599 " 1975 - 07 (same) 1975 - 10 (same) 1976 - 01 (same) 1976 - 04 " 496 [sic ?!] " 1976 - 07 " 598 " 1976 - 10 " 597 " 1977 - 01 " 596 " 1977 - 04 " 595 " 1977 - 07 (same) 1977 - 10 " 594 " 1978 - 01 " 592 " 1978 - 04 (same) 1978 - 07 " 591 " 1978 - 10 " 590 " 1979 - 01 (same) 1979 - 04 " 587 " 1979 - 07 (same) 1979 - 10 (same) 1980 - 01 " 586 " 1980 - 04 (same) 1980 - 07 (same) 1980 - 10 " 585 " 1981 - 01 " 584 " 1981 - 04 " 583 " 1981 - 07 (same) 1981 - 10 (same) 1982 - 01 (same) 1982 - 04 (same) 1982 - 07 " 581 " 1982 - 10 " 580 " 1983 - 01 (same) 1983 - 05 " 581 " 1983 - 07 (same) 1983 - 10 (same) 1984 - 01 (same) 1984 - 04 (same) 1984 - 07 (same) 1984 - 10 (same) 1985 - 01 (same) 1985 - 04 (same) 1985 - 07 (same) 1985 - 10 (same) 1986 - 01 (same) 1986 - 04 (same) 1986 - 07 (same) 1986 - 10 (same) 1987 - 01 (same) 1987 - 04 (same) 1987 - 07 (same) 1987 - 10 78000-78599 577 Box, Steel, 50K 78184,78222,78393,78533 4 Box, Steel [same dim's except capy lbs = …] 1988 - 01 78000-78599 579 Box, Steel, 50K 78393,78533 2 Box, Steel [same dim's except capy lbs = …] 1988 - 04 78000-78599 581 Box, Steel, 50K 1988 - 07 78000-78599 579 Box, Steel, 50K 78502,78587 2 Box, Steel [same dim's except capy lbs = …] 1988 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1989 - 01 78000-78599 581 Box, Steel, 50K 1989 - 04 " 536 " 1989 - 07 " 533 " 1989 - 10 " 503 " 1990 - 01 (same) 1990 - 04 (same) 1990 - 07 (same) 1990 - 10 (same) 1991 - 01 Not listed 1991 - 04 1991 - 07 1991 - 10 1992 - 01 1992 - 04 1992 - 07 1992 - 10 78409-78594 2 Box, Steel 1993 - 01 (same) 1993 - 04 (same) 1993 - 07 (same) 1993 - 10 (same) 1994 - 01 (same) 1994 - 04 (same) 1994 - 07 (same) 1994 - 10 (same) 1995 - 01 (same) 1995 - 04 (same) 1995 - 07 (same) 1995 - 10 (same) 1996 - 01 (same) 1996 - 04 (same) 1996 - 07 (same) 1996 - 10 (same) 1997 - 01 (same) 1997 - 04 (same) 1997 - 07 Not listed
- Per March, 1974 B&MRRHS Bulletin "White Flags" column (p3)
Also per Don ClerkeBuilt by Southern Iron & Equipment Co. (Atlanta, GA) (this is a division of U.S. Railway Equipment Co.).
Leased for 15 years from U.S. Railway Equipment Co.
Total lease is 700 cars - this includes the 78000, 3000 and 3100 series.- 10/1992 - Are these new cars? Hard to tell, but dimensions match previous 78000 series cars (why were they not listed for 7 issues?)
- Evans/Seico leased to AN (Apalachicola Northern Railroad?) in 1994 (AN 7000-7084 - 85 cars)
to ATW (Atlantic and Western Railway?) 557022-557046 (also in 1994?) (or are these different cars than the AN cars?)
Others to HS 14300-14319 (20 cars) 1989
Others to TA&G (Tennessee, Alabama and Georgia Railway?) 7031-7040 (10 cars) 1966(?)
(Neubauer, Eric. Evans Products Company Freight Car Roster Notes 2004)- in Nimke, R.W. Connecticut River Railroads and Connections Volume VI: Wells River - North p157 - Train JU-1 "Train report" for 1974-01-11:
BM 78184 empty for Groveton, NH
BM 78162 empty for Groveton, NH
BM 78106? empty for Groveton, NH
BM 78103 with a load of ? [can't read, "xxx Pallets"?] for Berlin, NH
BM 78165 empty for Berlin, NH
BM 78108 empty for Berlin, NH
- As delivered
- blue body and end, black door and underframe (including fishbelly/side sill). Roof-unpainted/grey/galvanized?. "Medium" intertwined "BM" herald in all-white
Built with low brake wheel, short ladders, no roof walk
Page Car # Photo Date
yr-mo-dayVisible? Markings Paint
SchemeHerald Notes Kfoury, Rick. Queen City Rails - Manchester's Railroads 1965-1990 B&MRRHS, 2019. ISBN 978-0-578-45881-6 p96 (top) 78403? 1973-1984 Y X A N Y blue small intertwined? very oblique picture. black door B&MRRHS Bulletin Issue included in "page" column v III #3 p3 78042 1974 X B BM R R N Y 1 N N N blue original builder's photo Don Clerke inserts into B&MRRHS Bulletin i 10 photo 24 78443? X BM R R N Y 2V I N N blue original Number partly cut off. Flatcar obscures underframe Bob's Photos (photo "number" in "page" column, collection in "Note" column) FC148 78494 1975-03 Y X B blue original ACI (left of door), COTS 78357 1982-05-09 p ex-H Frye collection. Photo of 5102, but boxcars in background
Note ACI labelRailroad Picture Archives (as of 10-Apr-2020)
Go to "By Railroad", then "Fallen Flags", then "BM" Boston & Maine section
Then "Rolling Stock Roster" → "Photographed" link, then page thru for car numberBM 78044 78044 1989-11-16 Y X BM R R N Y 2V I N N original original ACI left of door BM 78101 78101 1980-10-18 Y X B BM R R N Y 2V Y N N original original ACI left of door BM 78116 78116 early 1980s? Y X BM R R N Y ? I N N original original ACI left of door BM 78239 78239 1977-11-01 Y X B p BM R R N Y 2V N N N original original ACI left of door
roof partly visibleBM 78359 78359 1980-03-15 Y X ? BM R R N Y 2V Y N N original original ACI left of door BM 78372 78372 1987-03-06 Y p A BM R R N Y N original original ACI left of door, other end of car not visible BM 78451 78451 1977-10-12 Y p BM R R N N original? original? only left ¼ of car side visible BM 78526 78526 1978-08-23 Y X BM R R N Y 2V Y N N original original ACI left of door BM 78535 78535 1976-02-14 Y X BM R R N Y 2V N N N original original ACI left of door Fallen Flags and Other Railroad Photos (as of 15-Apr-2020)
Scroll down to the "B" section, click on the "Boston & Maine (B&M)" link
Then scroll down to find the photo. The "Page" column has the "Link" text listedXM 78042 78042 Y X B BM R R N Y 1 N N N original original ACI left of door, "new" XM 78047 78047 1976-05 Y X B BM R R N Y 2V N N N original original ACI left of door, "new" XM 78066 78066 1974-10 Y X B BM R R N Y 1 N N N original original ACI left of door XM 78066 78066 1974-10 Y p B original original end detail XM 78066 78066 1974-10 Y p BM R R N Y N original original ACI left of door, only left half of car side XM 78068 78068 1979-07 Y X BM R R N Y 1 N N N original? original ACI left of door, Blue seems darker, but it may be the slide? XM 78151 78151 1979-02 Y X B BM R R N Y 1 Y N N original original ACI left of door, Door damaged XM 78173 78173 1974-11 Y X p BM R R N Y 1 N N N original original ACI left of door XM 78188 78188 1976-11 Y X BM R R N Y 2V N N N original original ACI left of door XM 78212 78212 1989-01 Y X BM R R N Y 2V N N N original original ACI left of door XM 78236 78236 Y X BM R R N Y 1 Y N N original original ACI left of door XM 78245 78245 1981-03-15 Y X BM R R N Y 2V I N N original original ACI left of door XM 78382 78382 Y X B BM R R N Y 2V N N N original original ACI left of door XM 78539 78539 Y X B BM R R N Y 2V N N N original original ACI left of door XM 78584 78584 Y X p BM R R N Y 2V N N N original original ACI left of door, "new" XM 78593 78593 Y X B BM R R N Y 2V N N N original original ACI left of door Evans Products Builder's photographs p501 78042 1973-11 Y X B BM R R N Y 1 N N N original original Rail Car Photos (as of 24-Aug-2020)
May require a login, May require a browser newer than Internet Explorer.
Several ways to get there, I "Search Photos" → "By Reporting Mark"
Scroll down and click the "Search" button to the right of the "BM" reporting marks
Then scroll down to find the photo. The "Page" column has the "Link" text listed78101 1980-10-18 Y X B BM R R N Y 2V Y N N original original 78359 1980-02-16 Y X B BM R R N Y 2V Y N N original original 78486 1974-05-01 Y X Bp BM R R N Y 2V N N N original original Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery (as of 29-Aug-2020)
"American Railroads" → "Boston & Maine"
Then scroll down to find the photo.BM 78068 1979-07 Y X B BM R R N Y 1 N N N original original Door partially open, load visible BM 78173 1974-11 Y X p BM R R N Y 1 N N N original original BM 78338 1979-10 X p BM R R N Y 2V I N N original original Niagara Rails (as of 30-Aug-2020)
Rosters → Railcars → Expand "B" (menu on left) → BM
Then scroll to find the photo. (mostly seem to be poorer quality images of equivalent "Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery" photos)78173 Y X p BM R R N Y 1 N N N original original Box and Freight Cars of North America (as of 30-Aug-2020)
Select the "A-L" link → Select the "B-BM" link → B&M cars are on pp 10-11 (of 11 total)
Images on web are "thumbnails", you may have pay for higher resolution images78567 1973-02-06 Y X BM R R N Y 2V N N N original original Title = "BM, Boston & Maine 50' Single Door Boxcar, 78567 February 6th, 1973, Providence Rhode Island" NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "Hillsboro Branch local".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=24750478069? 1984-09-07 p p One of several photos of this train NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "Westbound.".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=24693278244? 1977-04 Y p BM R? R N N 1? N N N NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "Berlin, NH".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=24481178158 1974-07-23 p BM G G N Y NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "Berlin, NH".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=16466878158? 1974-07-23 Y p BM G G N Y original ? NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "B&M Brakeman on Boxcar".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=4156678127 1974 Y p B NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "475 in the E. Deerfield Yard".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=845291981-07-15 Y p A 2V Y N original original Highball Graphics
N/HO/O scale decals, but they have a couple prototype pictures
Web site doesn't seem to work very well with Internet Explorer, use a newer browser.
From main page, "check" (under "Railroad" list at left) the "Boston & Maine" → "Boston & Maine Blue SIECO 50' Boxcars [N / HO / O] Scale" (scale doesn't matter, they have same photos on all)?78226? ? Y X B BM N Y 2V Y N N original original Hard to see much in photo (small/grainy) B&MRRHS Facebook 1976-06 Y X p X BM N original original 2 - 78000 series (or a 78000 and a 30xx or 31xx) car behind the engines (followed by a 77000 series?) Rail Goat web site (as of 29-Jan-2022)
Possibly same photos as "Railcar photos" above?78101 1980-10-18 Y X B BM R R N Y 2V Y N N original original 78359 1980-02-16 Y X B BM R R N Y 2V Y N N original original 78486 1974-05-01 Y X Bp BM R R N Y 2V N N N original original looks pretty new in photo Nimke, R.W. Connecticut River Railroads and Connections Volume II: Bellows Falls, Vermont East and West Sharp Offset Printing, 1991. ISBN 0-914960-95-4 p118 bottom 1974-11-09 X Can't see reporting marks, appears to be this series? Nimke, R.W. Connecticut River Railroads and Connections Volume VI: Wells River - North Sharp Offset Printing, 1993. ISBN 0-914960-95-4 Berlin Insert, photo 6-691 1983-07-07 X 2 cars, lettering not legible, assuming this series Nimke, R.W. Connecticut River Railroads and Connections Volume VII: StJ&LC (part I), MEC Sharp Offset Printing, 1993. ISBN 0-914960-95-4 p182 middle 78018 1982-03-18 p p oblique view of side https://groups.io/g/MFCL - modern freight car list, thread posted 28-Mar-2023 titled "B&M 78431"
also posted in https://groups.io/g/bbfcl, same date & thread titleinitial post 78431 1974 Y X B BM R R N Y 2V N N original original looks pretty new in photo https://groups.io/g/bbfcl - baby boomer freight car list, thread posted 28-Mar-2023 titled "B&M 78431", reply by M Clements, 22-Apr-2023 2nd reply 3519? 2023-03 Y X BM G G N Y 2V N N Y original original looks pretty new in photo
Date Quantity New Numbers Description AN 70xx From Rail Goat web site, not sure where he got his data from
Scale Manufacturer Stock number Car number Paint scheme Notes N Athearn ATH22950 78066 as delivered unknown accuracy. Announced Jan, 2015. Listed "out of stock" on web site Dec 2020 N Athearn ATH22951 78151 as delivered unknown accuracy. Announced Jan, 2015. Listed "out of stock" on web site Dec 2020 N Athearn ATH22952 78584 as delivered unknown accuracy. Announced Jan, 2015. Listed "out of stock" on web site Dec 2020 HO Athearn ATHG69900 78066 as delivered unknown accuracy. Announced Jan, 2015. Listed "out of stock" on web site Dec 2020 HO Athearn ATHG69901 78151 as delivered unknown accuracy. Announced Jan, 2015. Listed "out of stock" on web site Dec 2020 HO Athearn ATHG69902 78584 as delivered unknown accuracy. Announced Jan, 2015. Listed "out of stock" on web site Dec 2020 N Athearn ATH22368 78044 as delivered unknown accuracy. "Pre-order" as of Jul-2021 N Athearn ATH22369 78101 as delivered unknown accuracy. "Pre-order" as of Jul-2021 N Athearn ATH22370 78239 as delivered unknown accuracy. "Pre-order" as of Jul-2021 HO Athearn ATHG26854 78044 as delivered unknown accuracy. "Pre-order" as of Jun-2021 HO Athearn ATHG26855 78101 as delivered unknown accuracy. "Pre-order" as of Jun-2021 HO Athearn ATHG26856 78239 as delivered unknown accuracy. "Pre-order" as of Jun-2021
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