Boston & Maine (2nd) 64680 Series Box Cars

Index

Builder's Photo
Classification Card(s) for series
Specifications
ORER data
ORER Notes
Discussion, General Notes
Paint Schemes
References
Photographs
Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions
Modeling
Revision History of this page

Builder's Photo

Does one exist?

B&M Classification Card(s)

For more info on the classification cards and "webitizing" them, see this web page
From 1955 class book.
Note there were 2 different pages, BOTH marked "Incomplete"
Page 1
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Specifications From Classification Cards

Spec Value
Build Date 6/1912 (P&LE 33596)
1943 (rebuilt by B&M, Deerfield)
Lot # 62
AAR class XM
Lt Weight 42,100 lbs
Cubic Cap'y 2,556 Cu. Ft.
Roof Outside metal
Ends Wood
Doors Wood reinforced
Trucks Vulcan with Simplex bolster
Springs 5 - 7/16" dia x 8¼"
Wheels 33" C.I. [cast iron]
Hand Brake Horizontal wheel and shaft
Air Brake K-2, 10 combined type cylinder
Brake Gear Horz: Wheel and shaft
Journals 5" x 9" (80,000 lbs nominal capacity)
Journal Bearing and wedges A.A.R.
Side Bearings Cast
Body bolster Pressed steel
Body Side Bearings C steel
Body center plate Cast 8" Dia.
Center Sills Angles & web plate (fishbelly, per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37)
per B/P [blueprint?] NYC X-96663
Coupler "D" 5" x 7"
Coupler Yoke C Steel
Draft Gear Miner tandem springs
Brake Beam #2+
Brake Beam Saf. Support 3rd point
Brake Beam Hangers 11 Stirrup [or " stirrup = Steel stirrup?]
Brake Shoes A.A.R. #1
Retaining Valve
Bottom Rod Sch.
Bottom Rod Support Loop riveted to spg. plank [spring plank]
Levers Steel
Unc[g?] Rigging Imperial "B"

Spec	Value
Build Date	6/1912 (P&LE 33596) 1943 (rebuilt by B&M, Deerfield)
Lot #	62
AAR class	XM
Lt Weight	42,100 lbs
Cubic Cap'y	2,556 Cu. Ft.
Roof	Outside metal
Ends	Wood
Doors	Wood reinforced
Trucks	Vulcan with Simplex bolster
Springs	5 - 7/16" dia x 8¼"
Wheels	33" C.I. [cast iron]
Hand Brake	Horizontal wheel and shaft
Air Brake	K-2, 10 combined type cylinder
Brake Gear	Horz: Wheel and shaft
Journals	5" x 9" (80,000 lbs nominal capacity)
Journal Bearing and wedges	A.A.R.
Side Bearings	Cast
Body bolster	Pressed steel
Body Side Bearings	C steel
Body center plate	Cast 8" Dia.
Center Sills	Angles & web plate (fishbelly, per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37) per B/P [blueprint?] NYC X-96663
Coupler	"D" 5" x 7"
Coupler Yoke	C Steel
Draft Gear	Miner tandem springs
Brake Beam	#2+
Brake Beam Saf. Support	3rd point
Brake Beam Hangers	11 Stirrup [or " stirrup = Steel stirrup?]
Brake Shoes	A.A.R. #1
Retaining Valve
Bottom Rod	Sch.
Bottom Rod Support	Loop riveted to spg. plank [spring plank]
Levers	Steel
Unc[g?] Rigging	Imperial "B"

ORER data and numbers

ORER Size Data
Description 10/1943 7/1948
M.C.B. Designation XM XM
Inside
Dimensions Length 36' 36'
Width 8'-6" 8'-6"
Height 8' 8'
Outside
Dimensions Length 38'-1" 36'-10"
Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 9'-5" 9'-8"
Extreme Width 10' 9'-8"
Height
from
Rail To Extreme Width 12'-7"
To Eaves or top of sides or platform 12'-9" 12'-7"
To Top of Running Board 13'-6" 13'-4"
To Extreme Height 14'-0" 14'-0"
Door - Side
opening Width 6' 6'
Height 8' 7'-7"
Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 2550 2467
Pounds 80000 80000

10/1943 data is combined listing 64680-65687
7/1948 data is from when it was listed by itself (whether or not the numbers reflect this car, or earlier data from other cars in this series, is unclear) NOTE: Actually listed as part of a larger series (see notes)
ORER History
ORER Date
(Year-Mo.) Car
Numbers # of
Cars Description
1912 - 06 P&LE 33596 Box(?)
1943 Rebuilt after wreck by B&M (East Deerfield shops)
1943 - 07 64682-65687 [0]
1943 - 10 64680-65687 [1] Box, Grain, Steel Underframe
1944 - 01 (same)
1944 - 04 (same)
1944 - 07 (same)
1944 - 10 (same)
1945 - 01 (same)
1945 - 04 (same)
1945 - 07 (same)
1945 - 10 (same)
1946 - 01 (same)
1946 - 04 (same)
1946 - 07 (same)
1946 - 10 (same)
1947 - 01 (same)
1947 - 04 (same)
1947 - 07 (same)
1947 - 10 (same)
1948 - 01 64680,64818 " "
1948 - 04 (same)
1948 - 07 64680 1 "
1948 - 10 Not listed

ORER Size Data
Description	10/1943	7/1948
M.C.B. Designation	XM	XM
Inside Dimensions	Length	36'	36'
Width	8'-6"	8'-6"
Height	8'	8'
Outside Dimensions	Length	38'-1"	36'-10"
Width	At Eaves or top of sides or platform	9'-5"	9'-8"
Extreme Width	10'	9'-8"
Height from Rail	To Extreme Width		12'-7"
To Eaves or top of sides or platform	12'-9"	12'-7"
To Top of Running Board	13'-6"	13'-4"
To Extreme Height	14'-0"	14'-0"
Door - Side opening	Width	6'	6'
Height	8'	7'-7"
Capacity	Cu Ft. Level Full	2550	2467
Pounds	80000	80000

ORER History
ORER Date (Year-Mo.)	Car Numbers	# of Cars	Description
1912 - 06	P&LE 33596		Box(?)
1943	Rebuilt after wreck by B&M (East Deerfield shops)
1943 - 07	64682-65687	[0]
1943 - 10	64680-65687	[1]	Box, Grain, Steel Underframe
1944 - 01	(same)
1944 - 04	(same)
1944 - 07	(same)
1944 - 10	(same)
1945 - 01	(same)
1945 - 04	(same)
1945 - 07	(same)
1945 - 10	(same)
1946 - 01	(same)
1946 - 04	(same)
1946 - 07	(same)
1946 - 10	(same)
1947 - 01	(same)
1947 - 04	(same)
1947 - 07	(same)
1947 - 10	(same)
1948 - 01	64680,64818	"	"
1948 - 04	(same)
1948 - 07	64680	1	"
1948 - 10	Not listed

ORER Notes

Discussion, General Notes

Fishbelly steel underframe, double-sheathed, wood ends
Per Tim Gilbert
During World War II, there was a tremendous car shortage due to the demand for cars, and the lack of new cars built during the depression. New car construction ran afoul of the War Production Board's Rationing Regulations. Railroads were forced to scramble, and one way they could acquire more cars was to rebuild wrecks. P&LE 33596 was a candidate as a contribution to the war effort, which the B&M rebuilt into their (2nd) #64680 (the first having gone to its better reward in the late 1930s [per ORER data, between April and July, 1939]). The second #64680 was never [?] listed as a separate entity in the ORERs, but included in the #64680-65687 series lines because it was a 36' SUF boxcar with 5" x 9" journals. Its inside height was 8'-4" (4" more than its step-sisters) and cubic capacity was 2550 (vs. 2467 and 2542 of the original #64680s). Second #64680 may have lasted until 1948, but it was no longer listed in the April, 1949 ORER [see above - it was no longer listed in October, 1948]

Paint Schemes

References or other data

Magazine/Book article(s)

Photographs

Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions

Models

Revision History

File History for THIS page
Date Who Description
08-Dec-2019 KG Akerboom Initial release
04-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Re-did references/photos section
25-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Updated per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37
01-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 4 more ORER (1941, 1943, 1945, 1947)
05-May-2020 KG Akerboom Moved ORER notes into separate section
21-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom "Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
07- thru
16-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
24-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Added 1955 Classification Cards
29-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Updated Classification Card data table
21-Oct-2021 KG Akerboom Added remaining 7/1928 - 10/1947 ORERs
09-Nov-2022 KG Akerboom Updated per [almost] complete ORER data
04-Jan-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed headers and footers...hopefully

File History for THIS page
Date	Who	Description
08-Dec-2019	KG Akerboom	Initial release
04-Apr-2020	KG Akerboom	Re-did references/photos section
25-Apr-2020	KG Akerboom	Updated per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 37
01-May-2020	KG Akerboom	Added data from 4 more ORER (1941, 1943, 1945, 1947)
05-May-2020	KG Akerboom	Moved ORER notes into separate section
21-Jul-2020	KG Akerboom	"Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
07- thru 16-Aug-2020	KG Akerboom	Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
24-Nov-2020	KG Akerboom	Added 1955 Classification Cards
29-Nov-2020	KG Akerboom	Updated Classification Card data table
21-Oct-2021	KG Akerboom	Added remaining 7/1928 - 10/1947 ORERs
09-Nov-2022	KG Akerboom	Updated per [almost] complete ORER data
04-Jan-2023	KG Akerboom	Fixed headers and footers...hopefully

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