Boston & Maine (2nd) 4000 Series Box Cars

Index

Builder's Photo
Classification Card(s) for series
Specifications
ORER data
ORER Notes
Discussion, General Notes
Paint Schemes
References
Photographs
Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions
Modeling
Revision History of this page

Builder's Photo

Does one exist?

B&M Classification Card(s)

Does one exist?

Specifications From Classification Cards

?

ORER data and numbers

ORER Size Data
Description 10/1979 1/1983 5/1983
AAR Mechanical Designation XP XP XP
Inside
Dimensions Length 50'-6" 50'-6" 50'-6"
Width 9'-2" 9'-2" 9'-2"
Height 10'-5" 10'-5" 10'-5"
Outside
Dimensions Length 51'-10" 54'-4" 54'-4"
Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 9'-4"
10'-5" 9'-4"
10'-5" 10'-5"
Extreme Width 10'-8" 10'-8" 10'-5"
Height
from
Rail To Extreme Width 5'-8" 5'-8" 13'-7"
To Eaves or top of sides or platform 14'-5"
13'-7" 14'-5"
13'-7" 14'-5"
To Extreme Height 15' 15' 15'
Door - Side
opening Width 9' 9' 9'
Height 9'-9" 9'-9" 9'-10"
Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 4840 4825 4825
Pounds 110000 110000 110000

ORER History
ORER Date
(Year-Mo.) Car
Numbers # of
Cars Description
1979 - 10 4000-4009 10 Box, Steel (Packaged Flour), 25K
1980 - 01 4000-4034 35 "
1980 - 04 (same)
1980 - 07 4000-4041 42 "
1980 - 10 (same)
1981 - 01 (same)
1981 - 04 (same)
1981 - 07 (same)
1981 - 10 (same)
1982 - 01 " 41 "
1982 - 04 (same)
1982 - 07 (same)
1982 - 10 (same)
1983 - 01 (same)
1983 - 05 (same)
1983 - 07 (same)
1983 - 10 (same)
1984 - 01 " 40 "
1984 - 04 (same)
1984 - 07 (same)
1984 - 10 " 18 "
1985 - 01 " 14 "
1985 - 04 (same)
1985 - 07 " 11 "
1985 - 10 (same)
1986 - 01 (same)
1986 - 04 (same)
1986 - 07 (same)
1986 - 10 (same)
1987 - 01 (same)
1987 - 04 (same)
1987 - 07 (same)
1987 - 10 (same)
1988 - 01 (same)
1988 - 04 (same)
1988 - 07 (same)
1988 - 10 (same)
1989 - 01 (same)
1989 - 04 (same)
1989 - 07 (same)
1989 - 10 Not listed

ORER Size Data
Description	10/1979	1/1983	5/1983
AAR Mechanical Designation	XP	XP	XP
Inside Dimensions	Length	50'-6"	50'-6"	50'-6"
Width	9'-2"	9'-2"	9'-2"
Height	10'-5"	10'-5"	10'-5"
Outside Dimensions	Length	51'-10"	54'-4"	54'-4"
Width	At Eaves or top of sides or platform	9'-4" 10'-5"	9'-4" 10'-5"	10'-5"
Extreme Width	10'-8"	10'-8"	10'-5"
Height from Rail	To Extreme Width	5'-8"	5'-8"	13'-7"
To Eaves or top of sides or platform	14'-5" 13'-7"	14'-5" 13'-7"	14'-5"
To Extreme Height	15'	15'	15'
Door - Side opening	Width	9'	9'	9'
Height	9'-9"	9'-9"	9'-10"
Capacity	Cu Ft. Level Full	4840	4825	4825
Pounds	110000	110000	110000

ORER History
ORER Date (Year-Mo.)	Car Numbers	# of Cars	Description
1979 - 10	4000-4009	10	Box, Steel (Packaged Flour), 25K
1980 - 01	4000-4034	35	"
1980 - 04	(same)
1980 - 07	4000-4041	42	"
1980 - 10	(same)
1981 - 01	(same)
1981 - 04	(same)
1981 - 07	(same)
1981 - 10	(same)
1982 - 01	"	41	"
1982 - 04	(same)
1982 - 07	(same)
1982 - 10	(same)
1983 - 01	(same)
1983 - 05	(same)
1983 - 07	(same)
1983 - 10	(same)
1984 - 01	"	40	"
1984 - 04	(same)
1984 - 07	(same)
1984 - 10	"	18	"
1985 - 01	"	14	"
1985 - 04	(same)
1985 - 07	"	11	"
1985 - 10	(same)
1986 - 01	(same)
1986 - 04	(same)
1986 - 07	(same)
1986 - 10	(same)
1987 - 01	(same)
1987 - 04	(same)
1987 - 07	(same)
1987 - 10	(same)
1988 - 01	(same)
1988 - 04	(same)
1988 - 07	(same)
1988 - 10	(same)
1989 - 01	(same)
1989 - 04	(same)
1989 - 07	(same)
1989 - 10	Not listed

ORER Notes

Discussion, General Notes

Conversion of 77000 series 50' PS-1?
Per B&MRRHS Modeler's Notes #39 - yes

Paint Schemes

As rebuilt
blue sides, ends. black door, underframe, and side sill (fishbelly). Roof unknown
smaller (4'?) intertwined "BM" herald - white with black border
Yellow panel with lettering, just to the right of reporting marks (?to specify only for flour loading?)
ALSO yellow panel with "?no roofwalk?" lettering next to "B" end ladders (left side only?)

References or other data

Magazine/Book article(s)

Photographs

Page Car # Photo Date
yr-mo-day Visible? Markings Paint
Scheme Herald Notes

B&MRRHS Modelers Notes Issue No. included in "page" column
No 18 p8 4004 1985 X B AB N 2V I N as rebuilt as rebuilt high mount brake wheel
Railroad Picture Archives (as of 10-Apr-2020)
Go to "By Railroad", then "Fallen Flags", then "BM" Boston & Maine section
Then "Rolling Stock Roster" → "Photographed" link, then page thru for car number
BM 4006 4006 1989-11-16 Y X B BM R R AB N 2V Y N N as rebuilt high brake wheel but other ladders cut down
BM 4031 4031 1981-04-01 Y X A? X BM R R AB N 2V Y N N as rebuilt No roofwalk.
NERail Photo Archive
or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" →
Then scroll thru to find the photo "Your general fixer-upper".
or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=8897
4004 2002-05 Y X B BM ? ? AB N 2V Y N N as rebuilt ladders completely removed (used for storage)
Highball Graphics
N/HO/O scale decals, but they have a couple prototype pictures
Web site doesn't seem to work very well with Internet Explorer, use a newer browser.
From main page, "check" (under "Railroad" list at left) the "Boston & Maine" → "Boston & Maine 50' PS-1 Boxcars Modernized [N / HO / O] Scale" (scale doesn't matter, they have same photos on all)
4026 ? Y X Bp BM R R AB N 2V Y N N as rebuilt as rebuilt high brake wheel, no roof walk
4024 ? Y X A BM R R AB N 2V Y N N as rebuilt as rebuilt high brake wheel, no roof walk

Page	Car #	Photo Date yr-mo-day		Visible?	Markings	Paint Scheme	Notes

*B&MRRHS Modelers Notes* Issue No. included in "page" column
No 18 p8	4004	1985		X	B					AB	N	2V	I	N		as rebuilt	as rebuilt	high mount brake wheel
Railroad Picture Archives (as of 10-Apr-2020) Go to "By Railroad", then "Fallen Flags", then "BM" Boston & Maine section Then "Rolling Stock Roster" → "Photographed" link, then page thru for car number
BM 4006	4006	1989-11-16	Y	X	B		BM	R	R	AB	N	2V	Y	N	N	as rebuilt		high brake wheel but other ladders cut down
BM 4031	4031	1981-04-01	Y	X	A?	X	BM	R	R	AB	N	2V	Y	N	N	as rebuilt		No roofwalk.
NERail Photo Archive or http://photos.nerail.org/ → "By Railroad" → "Boston & Maine" → Then scroll thru to find the photo "Your general fixer-upper". or try: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=8897
	4004	2002-05	Y	X	B		BM	?	?	AB	N	2V	Y	N	N	as rebuilt		ladders completely removed (used for storage)
Highball Graphics N/HO/O scale decals, but they have a couple prototype pictures Web site doesn't seem to work very well with Internet Explorer, use a newer browser. From main page, "check" (under "Railroad" list at left) the "Boston & Maine" → "Boston & Maine 50' PS-1 Boxcars Modernized [N / HO / O] Scale" (scale doesn't matter, they have same photos on all)
	4026	?	Y	X	Bp		BM	R	R	AB	N	2V	Y	N	N	as rebuilt	as rebuilt	high brake wheel, no roof walk
	4024	?	Y	X	A		BM	R	R	AB	N	2V	Y	N	N	as rebuilt	as rebuilt	high brake wheel, no roof walk

Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions

Models

Conversion of 77000 series 50' PS-1s, so see them

Revision History

File History for THIS page
Date Who Description
16-Dec-2019 KG Akerboom Initial release
29-Mar-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 19 more ORERs
04-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Re-did references/photos section
22-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Updated per B&MRRHS Modeler's Notes #39
05-May-2020 KG Akerboom Moved ORER notes into separate section
21-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom "Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
07- thru
16-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
11-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Added "NE Rails" photos
23-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Added photos from Highball Graphics decals site
06-Nov-2022 KG Akerboom Updated per [almost] complete ORER data
04-Jan-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed headers and footers...hopefully

File History for THIS page
Date	Who	Description
16-Dec-2019	KG Akerboom	Initial release
29-Mar-2020	KG Akerboom	Added data from 19 more ORERs
04-Apr-2020	KG Akerboom	Re-did references/photos section
22-Apr-2020	KG Akerboom	Updated per B&MRRHS Modeler's Notes #39
05-May-2020	KG Akerboom	Moved ORER notes into separate section
21-Jul-2020	KG Akerboom	"Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
07- thru 16-Aug-2020	KG Akerboom	Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
11-Nov-2020	KG Akerboom	Added "NE Rails" photos
23-Dec-2020	KG Akerboom	Added photos from Highball Graphics decals site
06-Nov-2022	KG Akerboom	Updated per [almost] complete ORER data
04-Jan-2023	KG Akerboom	Fixed headers and footers...hopefully

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