Boston & Maine 20 Series Box Cars

Index

Builder's Photo
Classification Card(s) for series
Specifications
ORER data
ORER Notes
Discussion, General Notes
Paint Schemes
References
Photographs
Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions
Modeling
Revision History of this page

Builder's Photo (sort of)

Norton Clark photo, image from seller on ebay, used with seller's permission. Photo ca. 1974-07-02, Watertown, MA

B&M Classification Card(s)

Does one exist?

Specifications From Classification Cards

?

Floor loading 25k per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #18 (Jul, 1990)

Floor loading	25k per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #18 (Jul, 1990)

ORER data and numbers

ORER Size Data
Description 4/1962 1/1968 1/1983 5/1983
AAR Mechanical Designation XMP XP XP XP
Inside
Dimensions Length 50'-6" 50'-6" 50'-6" 50'-6"
Width 9'-2" 9'-2" 9'-2" 9'-2"
Height 10'-5" 10'-5" 10'-5" 10'-5"
Outside
Dimensions Length 51'-10" 51'-10" 51'-10" 54'-4"
Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 9'-4"
10'-5" 9'-4"
10'-5" 9'-4"
10'-5" 10'-5"
Extreme Width 10'-8" 10'-8" 10'-8" 10'-5"
Height
from
Rail To Extreme Width 5'-8" 5'-8" 5'-8" 13'-7"
To Eaves or top of sides or platform 14'-5"
13'-7" 14'-5"
13'-7" 14'-5"
13'-7" 14'-5"
To Top of Running Board 15' 15' 15'
To Extreme Height 15' 15' 15' 15'
Door - Side
opening Width 9' 9' 9' 9'
Height 9'-9" 9'-9" 9'-9" 9'-10"
Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 4840 4840 4840 4825
Pounds 100000 100000 110000 110000

ORER History
ORER Date
(Year-Mo.) Car
Numbers # of
Cars Description
1962 - 04 20-21 2 Box, Steel, Note H
1962 - 07 (same)
1962 - 10 (same)
1963 - 01 (same)
1963 - 04 (same)
1963 - 07 (same)
1963 - 10 (same)
1964 - 01 (same)
1964 - 04 (same)
1964 - 07 (same)
1964 - 10 (same)
1965 - 01 (same)
1965 - 04 (same)
1965 - 07 (same)
1965 - 10 (same)
1966 - 01 (same)
1966 - 04 (same)
1966 - 07 (same)
1966 - 10 (same)
1967 - 01 (same)
1967 - 04 (same)
1967 - 07 (same)
1967 - 10 (same)
1968 - 01 (same)
1968 - 04 (same)
1968 - 07 (same)
1968 - 10 20-27 8 "
1969 - 01 (same)
1969 - 04 (same)
1969 - 07 (same)
1969 - 10 (same)
1970 - 01 (same)
1970 - 04 (same)
1970 - 07 (same)
1970 - 10 (same)
1971 - 01 (same)
1971 - 04 (same)
1971 - 07 (same)
1971 - 10 (same)
1972 - 01 (same)
1972 - 04 (same)
1972 - 07 (same)
1972 - 10 (same)
1973 - 01 (same)
1973 - 04 (same)
1973 - 07 (same)
1973 - 11 " " Box, Steel, (bagged cement)
1974 - 01 (same)
1974 - 04 (same)
1974 - 07 (same)
1974 - 10 (same)
1975 - 01 (same)
1975 - 04 (same)
1975 - 07 (same)
1975 - 10 (same)
1976 - 01 (same)
1976 - 04 (same)
1976 - 07 (same)
1976 - 10 (same)
1977 - 01 (same)
1977 - 04 (same)
1977 - 07 (same)
1977 - 10 (same)
1978 - 01 (same)
1978 - 04 (same)
1978 - 07 (same)
1978 - 10 (same)
1979 - 01 (same)
1979 - 04 (same)
1979 - 07 (same)
1979 - 10 (same)
1980 - 01 (same)
1980 - 04 (same)
1980 - 07 (same)
1980 - 10 (same)
1981 - 01 (same)
1981 - 04 (same)
1981 - 07 (same)
1981 - 10 (same)
1982 - 01 (same)
1982 - 04 (same)
1982 - 07 (same)
1982 - 10 (same)
1983 - 01 (same)
1983 - 05 (same)
1983 - 07 (same)
1983 - 10 (same)
1984 - 01 (same)
1984 - 04 (same)
1984 - 07 (same)
1984 - 10 " 5 "
1985 - 01 " 4 "
1985 - 04 (same)
1985 - 07 " 2 "
1985 - 10 (same)
1986 - 01 (same)
1986 - 04 (same)
1986 - 07 (same)
1986 - 10 (same)
1987 - 01 (same)
1987 - 04 (same)
1987 - 07 (same)
1987 - 10 (same)
1988 - 01 (same)
1988 - 04 (same)
1988 - 07 (same)
1988 - 10 (same)
1989 - 01 (same)
1989 - 04 (same)
1989 - 07 (same)
1989 - 10 Not listed

ORER Size Data
Description	4/1962	1/1968	1/1983	5/1983
AAR Mechanical Designation	XMP	XP	XP	XP
Inside Dimensions	Length	50'-6"	50'-6"	50'-6"	50'-6"
Width	9'-2"	9'-2"	9'-2"	9'-2"
Height	10'-5"	10'-5"	10'-5"	10'-5"
Outside Dimensions	Length	51'-10"	51'-10"	51'-10"	54'-4"
Width	At Eaves or top of sides or platform	9'-4" 10'-5"	9'-4" 10'-5"	9'-4" 10'-5"	10'-5"
Extreme Width	10'-8"	10'-8"	10'-8"	10'-5"
Height from Rail	To Extreme Width	5'-8"	5'-8"	5'-8"	13'-7"
To Eaves or top of sides or platform	14'-5" 13'-7"	14'-5" 13'-7"	14'-5" 13'-7"	14'-5"
To Top of Running Board	15'	15'	15'
To Extreme Height	15'	15'	15'	15'
Door - Side opening	Width	9'	9'	9'	9'
Height	9'-9"	9'-9"	9'-9"	9'-10"
Capacity	Cu Ft. Level Full	4840	4840	4840	4825
Pounds	100000	100000	110000	110000

ORER History
ORER Date (Year-Mo.)	Car Numbers	# of Cars	Description
1962 - 04	20-21	2	Box, Steel, Note H
1962 - 07	(same)
1962 - 10	(same)
1963 - 01	(same)
1963 - 04	(same)
1963 - 07	(same)
1963 - 10	(same)
1964 - 01	(same)
1964 - 04	(same)
1964 - 07	(same)
1964 - 10	(same)
1965 - 01	(same)
1965 - 04	(same)
1965 - 07	(same)
1965 - 10	(same)
1966 - 01	(same)
1966 - 04	(same)
1966 - 07	(same)
1966 - 10	(same)
1967 - 01	(same)
1967 - 04	(same)
1967 - 07	(same)
1967 - 10	(same)
1968 - 01	(same)
1968 - 04	(same)
1968 - 07	(same)
1968 - 10	20-27	8	"
1969 - 01	(same)
1969 - 04	(same)
1969 - 07	(same)
1969 - 10	(same)
1970 - 01	(same)
1970 - 04	(same)
1970 - 07	(same)
1970 - 10	(same)
1971 - 01	(same)
1971 - 04	(same)
1971 - 07	(same)
1971 - 10	(same)
1972 - 01	(same)
1972 - 04	(same)
1972 - 07	(same)
1972 - 10	(same)
1973 - 01	(same)
1973 - 04	(same)
1973 - 07	(same)
1973 - 11	"	"	Box, Steel, (bagged cement)
1974 - 01	(same)
1974 - 04	(same)
1974 - 07	(same)
1974 - 10	(same)
1975 - 01	(same)
1975 - 04	(same)
1975 - 07	(same)
1975 - 10	(same)
1976 - 01	(same)
1976 - 04	(same)
1976 - 07	(same)
1976 - 10	(same)
1977 - 01	(same)
1977 - 04	(same)
1977 - 07	(same)
1977 - 10	(same)
1978 - 01	(same)
1978 - 04	(same)
1978 - 07	(same)
1978 - 10	(same)
1979 - 01	(same)
1979 - 04	(same)
1979 - 07	(same)
1979 - 10	(same)
1980 - 01	(same)
1980 - 04	(same)
1980 - 07	(same)
1980 - 10	(same)
1981 - 01	(same)
1981 - 04	(same)
1981 - 07	(same)
1981 - 10	(same)
1982 - 01	(same)
1982 - 04	(same)
1982 - 07	(same)
1982 - 10	(same)
1983 - 01	(same)
1983 - 05	(same)
1983 - 07	(same)
1983 - 10	(same)
1984 - 01	(same)
1984 - 04	(same)
1984 - 07	(same)
1984 - 10	"	5	"
1985 - 01	"	4	"
1985 - 04	(same)
1985 - 07	"	2	"
1985 - 10	(same)
1986 - 01	(same)
1986 - 04	(same)
1986 - 07	(same)
1986 - 10	(same)
1987 - 01	(same)
1987 - 04	(same)
1987 - 07	(same)
1987 - 10	(same)
1988 - 01	(same)
1988 - 04	(same)
1988 - 07	(same)
1988 - 10	(same)
1989 - 01	(same)
1989 - 04	(same)
1989 - 07	(same)
1989 - 10	Not listed

ORER Notes

ORER Note H (4/1962 - 7/1968)

Cars numbered 20 and 21 are equipped for handling bagged cement

ORER Note H (10/1968 - 7/1973)

Cars numbered 20 to 27 are equipped for handling bagged cement
After that date, note data was included in main description

Discussion, General Notes

Pullman Standard 77000 series 50' PS-1 conversions
(see 77000 series listing for sources)

Paint Schemes

As Converted
Picture in ebay auction 05-Dec-2022 ("Boston & Maine Box Car # 20 '1974' at Watertown,MA. ORIGINAL 35MM color slide" (https://www.ebay.com/itm/295376738329) shows:
heavily weathered "original" 77000 series paint scheme
Blue patch on top end rib with "BM 20" in white: "roman" font, "bridges" (that hold stencil together) NOT painted out
About 2 panels worth of side (from sill to about 1/2 way up) also painted blue
White lettering, roman font, "bridges" (that hold stencil together) NOT painted out. I assume sizing per AAR standards. Actual values not legible in ebay scan
BM
20
CAPY [value]
LD LMT [value]
LT WT [value]
[looks like a date]

References or other data

Magazine/Book article(s)

Photographs

Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions

Models

Revision History

File History for THIS page
Date Who Description
13-Dec-2019 KG Akerboom Initial release
28-Mar-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 19 more ORERs
04-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Re-did references/photos section
22-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Updated per B&MRRHS Modeler's Notes #39
05-May-2020 KG Akerboom Moved ORER notes into separate section
21-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom "Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
07- thru
16-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
31-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Updated misc stuff
05-Nov-2022 KG Akerboom Updated per [almost] complete ORER data
05-Dec-2022 KG Akerboom Added paint scheme per ebay slide
04-Jan-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed headers and footers...hopefully

File History for THIS page
Date	Who	Description
13-Dec-2019	KG Akerboom	Initial release
28-Mar-2020	KG Akerboom	Added data from 19 more ORERs
04-Apr-2020	KG Akerboom	Re-did references/photos section
22-Apr-2020	KG Akerboom	Updated per B&MRRHS Modeler's Notes #39
05-May-2020	KG Akerboom	Moved ORER notes into separate section
21-Jul-2020	KG Akerboom	"Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
07- thru 16-Aug-2020	KG Akerboom	Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
31-Dec-2020	KG Akerboom	Updated misc stuff
05-Nov-2022	KG Akerboom	Updated per [almost] complete ORER data
05-Dec-2022	KG Akerboom	Added paint scheme per ebay slide
04-Jan-2023	KG Akerboom	Fixed headers and footers...hopefully

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