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Index

• Builder's Photo
• Classification Card(s) for series
• Specifications
• ORER data
• ORER Notes
• Discussion, General Notes
• Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data
• ICC Valuation Data
• Paint Schemes
• References
• Photographs
• Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions
• Modeling
• Revision History of this page

Builder's Photo

Does one exist?

B&M Classification Card(s)

Does one exist?

Specifications From Classification Cards

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ORER data and numbers

ORER Size Data - 1903-1910

Description	4/1903	1/1909
Length	40'	28'-40'
Width
Height
Capacity (Pounds)	40-60000	40-60000

ORER Size Data 1910-193x

Description			6/1910	2/1914	3/1914	11/1914
M.C.B. / AAR Mechanical Designation						XM
Inside Dimensions	Length			34'-4"	34'-4"	34'-4"
	Width			8'-2"	8'-2"	8'-2"
	Height			7'-1"	7'-1"	7'-1"
Outside Dimensions	Length		28'-40'
	Width	At Eaves or top of sides or platform	8'-6" - 8'-9"
		Extreme Width
	Height from Rail	To Extreme Width
		To Eaves or top of sides or platform
		To Top of Running Board
		To Extreme Height
Door - Side opening	Width
	Height
Capacity	Cu Ft. Level Full				1986	1986
	Pounds		40-60000	40-60000	60000	60000

Note these are existing cars being renumbered into a contiguous series

ORER History

ORER Date (Year-Mo.)	Car Numbers	# of Cars	Description
1893 - 04	12000-12199	(none)	8 Wheel box, 40 feet, Machinery
1893 - 05	(same)
1893 - 06	(same)
1893 - 07	(same)
1893 - 08	(same)
1893 - 09	(same)
1893 - 10	(same)
1893 - 11	"	10	"
1893 - 12	(same)
1894 - 01	(same)
1894 - 02	(same)
1894 - 03	(same)
1894 - 04	(same)
1894 - 05	(same)
1894 - 06	(same)
1894 - 07	(same)
1894 - 08	(same)
1894 - 09	(same)
1894 - 10	(same)
1894 - 11	(same)
1894 - 12	(same)
1895 - 01	(same)
1895 - 02	(same)
1895 - 03	(same)
1895 - 04	(same)
1895 - 05	(same)
1895 - 06	(same)
1895 - 07	(same)
1895 - 08	(same)
1895 - 09	(same)
1895 - 10	(same)
1895 - 11	(same)
1895 - 12	(same)
1896 - 01	(same)
1896 - 02	(same)
1896 - 03	(same)
1896 - 04	(same)
1896 - 05	(same)
1896 - 06	(same)
1896 - 07	(same)
1896 - 08	(same)
1896 - 09	(same)
1896 - 10	(same)
1896 - 11	(same)
1896 - 12	(same)
1897 - 01	(same)
1897 - 02	(same)
1897 - 03	(same)
1897 - 04	(same)
1897 - 05	(same)
1897 - 06	(same)
1897 - 07	(same)
1897 - 08	(same)
1897 - 09	(same)
1897 - 10	(same)
1897 - 11	(same)
1897 - 12	(same)
1898 - 01	(same)
1898 - 02	(same)
1898 - 03	(same)
1898 - 04	(same)
1898 - 05	(same)
1898 - 06	(same)
1898 - 07	(same)
1898 - 08	(same)
1898 - 09	(same)
1898 - 10	(same)
1898 - 11	(same)
1898 - 12	(same)
1899 - 01	(same)
1899 - 02	(same)
1899 - 03	(same)
1899 - 04	(same)
1899 - 05	(same)
1899 - 06	(same)
1899 - 07	(same)
1899 - 08	(same)
1899 - 09	(same)
1899 - 10	(same)
1899 - 11	(same)
1899 - 12	(same)
1900 - 01	(same)
1900 - 02	(same)
1900 - 03	(same)
1900 - 04	(same)
1900 - 05	(same)
1900 - 06	(same)
1900 - 07	(same)
1900 - 08	(same)
1900 - 09	"	"	Box, 40 feet, Machinery
1900 - 10	(same)
1900 - 11	"	9	"
1900 - 12	(same)
1901 - 01	(same)
1901 - 02	(same)
1901 - 03	(same)
1901 - 04	(same)
1901 - 05	(same)
1901 - 06	(same)
1901 - 07	(same)
1901 - 08	(same)
1901 - 09	(same)
1901 - 10	(same)
1901 - 11	(same)
1901 - 12	(same)
1902 - 01	(same)
1902 - 02	(same)
1902 - 03	(same)
1902 - 04	(same)
1902 - 05	(same)
1902 - 06	(same)
1902 - 07	(same)
1902 - 08	(same)
1902 - 09	(same)
1902 - 10	(same)
1902 - 11	(same)
1902 - 12	(same)
1903 - 01	(same)
1903 - 02	(same)
1903 - 03	(same)
1903 - 04	12000-12009	9	Box, Machinery
1903 - 05	(same)
1903 - 06	(same)
1903 - 07	(same)
1903 - 08	(same)
1903 - 09	(same)
1903 - 10	(same)
1903 - 11	(same)
1903 - 12	(same)
1904 - 01	(same)
1904 - 02	(same)
1904 - 03	(same)
1904 - 04	(same)
1904 - 05	(same)
1904 - 06	(same)
1904 - 07	(same)
1904 - 08	(same)
1904 - 09	(same)
1904 - 10	(same)
1904 - 11	(same)
1904 - 12	(same)
1905 - 01	(same)
1905 - 02	(same)
1905 - 03	(same)
1905 - 04	(same)
1905 - 05	"	8	"
1905 - 06	(same)
1905 - 07	(same)
1905 - 08	"	9	"
1905 - 09	(same)
1905 - 10	(same)
1905 - 11	(same)
1905 - 12	(same)
1906 - 01	(same)
1906 - 02	(same)
1906 - 03	(same)
1906 - 04	(same)
1906 - 05	(same)
1906 - 06	(same)
1906 - 07	(same)
1906 - 08	(same)
1906 - 09	(same)
1906 - 10	(same)
1906 - 11	(same)
1906 - 12	(same)
1907 - 01	(same)
1907 - 02	(same)
1907 - 03	(same)
1907 - 04	(same)
1907 - 05	(same)
1907 - 06	(same)
1907 - 07	(same)
1907 - 08	"	8	"
1907 - 09	(same)
1907 - 10	(same)
1907 - 11	"	4	"
1907 - 12	"	3	"
1908 - 01	(same)
1908 - 02	(same)
1908 - 03	(same)
1908 - 04	(same)
1908 - 05	"	8	"
1908 - 06	(same)
1908 - 07	(same)
1908 - 08	(same)
1908 - 09	(same)
1908 - 10	"	7	"
1908 - 11	(same) († in 12200-12259; 12380-12399; 12400-12409 series: to be renumbered 12000-12099)
1908 - 12	(same) (including †)
12200-12259; 12380[nee 12390]-12399; and 12400-12409 [nee 12400-12599] renumbered into 12000-12099
1909 - 01	12000-12099	25	"
1909 - 02	"	27	"
1909 - 03	"	28	Box, Special
1909 - 04	"	32	"
1909 - 05	"	33	"
1909 - 06	(same)
1909 - 07	(same)
1909 - 08	"	29	"
1909 - 09	(same)
1909 - 10	(same)
1909 - 11	"	28	"
1909 - 12	"	26	"
1910 - 01	"	24	"
1910 - 02	(same)
1910 - 03	"	23	"
1910 - 04	(same)
1910 - 05	(same)
1910 - 06	(same)
1910 - 07	(same)
1910 - 08	(same)
1910 - 09	"	22	"
1910 - 10	(same)
1910 - 11	(same)
1910 - 12	"	21	"
1911 - 01	(same)
1911 - 02	"	20	"
1911 - 03	(same)
1911 - 04	(same)
1911 - 05	(same)
1911 - 06	(same)
1911 - 07	"	19	"
1911 - 08	(same)
1911 - 09	"	20	"
1911 - 10	"	19	"
1911 - 11	(same)
1911 - 12	(same)
1912 - 01	(same)
1912 - 02	(same)
1912 - 03	(same)
1912 - 04	(same)
1912 - 05	"	18	"
1912 - 06	(same)
1912 - 07	"	17	"
1912 - 08	"	19	"
1912 - 09	"	21	"
1912 - 10	"	26	"
1912 - 11	"	25	"
1912 - 12	(same)
1913 - 01	(same)
1913 - 02	(same)
1913 - 03	"	24	"
1913 - 04	(same)
1913 - 05	"	23	"
1913 - 06	(same)
1913 - 07	(same)
1913 - 08	(same)
1913 - 09	"	27	"
1913 - 10	(same)
1913 - 11	(same)
1913 - 12	(same)
1914 - 01	"	26	"
1914 - 02	(same)
1914 - 03	"	25	"
1914 - 04	12000-12068	"	"
1914 - 05	(same)
1914 - 06	"	23	"
1914 - 07	(same)
1914 - 08	(same)
1914 - 09	(same)
1914 - 10	"	24	"
1914 - 11	(same)
1914 - 12	12000-12038	14	"
1915 - 01	(same)
1915 - 02	(same)
1915 - 03	(same)
1915 - 04	(same)
1915 - 05	(same)
1915 - 06	(same)
1915 - 07	"	13	"
1915 - 08	"	14	"
1915 - 09	(same)
1915 - 10	(same)
1915 - 11	(same)
1915 - 12	(same)
1916 - 01	(same)
1916 - 02	(same)
1916 - 03	"	13	"
1916 - 04	(same)
1916 - 05	(same)
1916 - 06	(same)
1916 - 07	"	12	"
1916 - 08	(same)
1916 - 09	(same)
1916 - 10	(same)
1916 - 11	(same)
1916 - 12	(same)
1917 - 01	(same)
1917 - 02	"	"	Box, Special (NOTE 4)
1917 - 03	12000-12040	13	" (including NOTE 4)
1917 - 04	(same - including NOTE 4)
1917 - 05	(same - including NOTE 4)
1917 - 06	(same - including NOTE 4)
1917 - 07	(same - including NOTE 4)
1917 - 08	(same - including NOTE 4)
1917 - 09	(same - including NOTE 4)
1917 - 10	(same - including NOTE 4)
1917 - 11	(same - including NOTE 4)
1917 - 12	(same - including NOTE 4)
1918 - 01	(same - including NOTE 4)
1918 - 02	(same - including NOTE 4)
1918 - 03	(same - including NOTE 4)
1918 - 04	(same - including NOTE 4)
1918 - 05	(same - including NOTE 4)
1918 - 06	(same - including NOTE 4)
1918 - 07	(same - including NOTE 4)
1918 - 08	(same - including NOTE 4)
1918 - 09	(same - including NOTE 4)
1918 - 10	"	12	"
1918 - 11	(same - including NOTE 4)
1918 - 12	"	11	" (note 4 removed)
1919 - 01	12002-12038	"	"
1919 - 02	(same)
1919 - 03	(same)
1919 - 04	(same)
1919 - 05	(same)
1919 - 06	(same)
1919 - 07	(same)
1919 - 08	(same)
1919 - 09	(same)
1919 - 10	"	10	"
1919 - 11	(same)
1919 - 12	(same)
1920 - 01	(same)
1920 - 02	(same)
1920 - 03	(same)
1920 - 04	12027-12038	9	"
1920 - 05	(same)
1920 - 06	(same)
1920 - 07	(same)
1920 - 08	(same)
1920 - 09	(same)
1920 - 10	(same)
1920 - 11	(same)
1920 - 12	(same)
1921 - 01	(same)
1921 - 02	(same)
1921 - 03	(same)
1921 - 04	(same)
1921 - 05	(same)
1921 - 06	12028-12038	8	"
1921 - 07	(same)
1921 - 08	(same)
1921 - 09	(same)
1921 - 10	(same)
1921 - 11	(same)
1921 - 12	(same)
1922 - 01	"	7	"
1922 - 02	(same)
1922 - 03	(same)
1922 - 04	(same)
1922 - 05	(same)
1922 - 06	(same)
1922 - 07	(same)
1922 - 08	(same)
1922 - 09	(same)
1922 - 10	(same)
1922 - 11	(same)
1922 - 12	(same)
1923 - 01	(same)
1923 - 02	(same)
1923 - 03	(same)
1923 - 04	12003-12038	12	" "*" - denotes additions
Split into 2 separate series After this, 12003-12027 listed in "Reefers" section
1923 - 05	12028-12038	7	Box, Special
1923 - 06	12028-12038	7	"
1923 - 07	12028-12038	7	"
1923 - 08	(same)
1923 - 09	12028-12037	6	"
1923 - 10	(same)
1923 - 11	(same)
1923 - 12	(same)
1924 - 01	(same)
1924 - 02	(same)
1924 - 03	(same)
1924 - 04	(same)
1924 - 05	(same)
1924 - 06	12031-12037	4	"
1924 - 07	(same)
1924 - 08	(same)
1924 - 09	(same)
1924 - 10	12035-12037	2	"
1924 - 11	12035,12037	2	"
1924 - 12	(same)
1925 - 01	(same)
1925 - 02	(same)
1925 - 03	(same)
1925 - 04	(same)
1925 - 05	12035,12037	2	"
1925 - 06	(same)
1925 - 07	(same)
1925 - 08	(same)
1925 - 09	(same)
1925 - 10	(same)
1925 - 11	Not Listed

ORER Notes

"Special Cars" note (1893-11 to 1894-04)

Machinery - The following cars are are [as listed]

Car #	Date first listed	Date last listed	Dimensions/notes
12000	1893-11	1894-04	has doors both ends
12006	1893-11	1894-04	has doors both ends
12008	1893-11	1894-04	has doors both ends
12009	1893-11	1894-04	has doors both ends

This series NEVER gets "*" indicating "Air Brakes" (1902-04 thru 1909-03)

ORER Note 4 (2/1917 to 11/1918)

12003 capy. raised to 60000 pounds

Discussion, General Notes

• From the fluctuation in numbers, periodically, either new cars were built, or cars from other series converted/renumbered.
  SO it may, in fact represent 2 or 3 (or maybe even 4) different sets of cars.
• Note in 1908 the explicit renumbering of 12200-12259 and 12390[12380]-12399 series into this series
• I'm not sure what happened in 1913-1914. Either dimensional "outlier" cars were retired/renumbered, or they ignored them and only listed the one set of car dimensions.
  Note the "Note 4" in 1917, which implies that car was NOT 60,000 capy. until it was converted, yet all the car capacities were already listed as 60000 since 1914?!?!
• B&MRRHS 1900-1907 Freight Car Lettering Book No. 1 (Reprint of B&M lettering diagrams)

  Note the "Book page number" below refers to the page number in the B&MRRHS book.
  As the B&MRRHS book's pages are NOT numbered, "1" is the first page with an actual diagram! (NOT the title pages or index pages)
  "U" = upper diagram on that page, "L" = lower diagram

  The "Diagram number" refers to the circled number (lower right corner) in each diagram (the original page number)

  Book page #	5 - L
  B&M Diagram #	10
  Diagram Date	1907
  Color on Diagram	Brown
  Notes on Diagram	End doors shown on diagram
  Datum	1900 Index	1907 Index
  Class of car	Box Car Machinery	Box Car Machinery
  Length	40'	43'
  Capacity	40,000-60,000	40,000-60,000
  Car Numbers	12000-12009	12000-12009
  Page [original]	21	10

Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data

Car Disposition Records

Source(s)
ID	Box	Folder	Folder name	Link Title	Approx. Start date	Approx. End date
A	1	3	Freight Car List Old	10190 - 12758 Auto + Misc	?	1935?

Data
Car Number	Disposition Source ID	Date Built	Rebuilt Date	Disposition Date	Disposition
12038	A	1907-07		1923-07	to 48839

ICC Valuation Data (circa 1914)

For more info on the ICC valuation data, see this web page

"Owning" RR	Car # / Range	Val Sheet #	Index on Page	Car Type	Built Date	Builder	Capy	Underframe	Body	Notes
B&M	12002	BM-13	31	Box, Special	1892	[N/A]	60	wood	wood
B&M	12003	BM-13	32	Box, Special	1893	Salem	50	wood	wood
B&M	12018	BM-13	33	Box, Special	1882	[N/A]	40	wood	wood
B&M	12021	BM-13	34	Box, Special	1890	Fitchburg	40	wood	wood
B&M	12025	BM-13	35	Box, Special	1890	Fitchburg	40	wood	wood
B&M	12026	BM-13	36	Box, Special	1890	Fitchburg	40	wood	wood
B&M	12077[sic - 12027?]	BM-13	37	Box, Special	1894	Laconia	60	wood	wood
B&M	12028	BM-13	38	Box, Special	1894	Laconia	60	wood	wood
B&M	12031	BM-13	39	Box, Special	1895-1896	Laconia	60	wood	wood
B&M	12032	BM-13	40	Box, Special	1895-1896	Laconia	60	wood	wood
B&M	12033	BM-13	41	Box, Special	1895-1896	Laconia	60	wood	wood
B&M	12034	BM-13	42	Box, Special	1896	Fitchburg	60	wood	wood
B&M	12035	BM-13	43	Box, Special	1890	Laconia-Fitchburg	60	wood	wood
B&M	12036	BM-13	44	Box, Special	1890	Laconia-Fitchburg	60	wood	wood
B&M	12050	BM-13	45	Box, Special	1907	Laconia	60	wood	wood
B&M	12054	BM-13	49	Box, Special	1895	Fitchburg	60	wood	wood
B&M	12060	BM-13	46	Box, Special	1907	Laconia	60	wood	wood
B&M	12061	BM-13	47	Box, Special	1907	Laconia	60	wood	wood
B&M	12062	BM-13	48	Box, Special	1907	Laconia	60	wood	wood
B&M	12063	BM-13	50	Box, Special	1908	Laconia	60	wood	wood
B&M	12064	BM-13	53	Box, Special	1907	Laconia	60	wood	wood
B&M	12066	BM-13	51	Box, Special	1907	AC&F	60	wood	wood
B&M	12067	BM-13	52	Box, Special	1907	AC&F	60	wood	wood

Paint Schemes

References or other data

• Magazine/Book article(s)

Photographs

Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions

Models

Revision History

File History for THIS page

Date	Who	Description
06-Dec-2019	KG Akerboom	Initial release
20-Mar-2020	KG Akerboom	Added data from 19 more ORERs
04-Apr-2020	KG Akerboom	Re-did references/photos section
05-May-2020	KG Akerboom	Moved ORER notes into separate section
15-May-2020	KG Akerboom	Added data from 4 more ORERs (1911,1919,1921,1931)
28-May-2020	KG Akerboom	updated 10/1919
21-Jul-2020	KG Akerboom	"Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
05-Aug-2020	KG Akerboom	Added 9/1899 ORER data
07- thru 16-Aug-2020	KG Akerboom	Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
10-Oct-2020	KG Akerboom	Added E. Neubauer ORER data (car counts only, 15 issues)
27-Jan-2021	KG Akerboom	Added info from "1900-1907 Freight Car Lettering Diagrams" book
10-Apr-2021	KG Akerboom	Added info from 47 more ORERs 1903 thru 1917
17-Oct-2021	KG Akerboom	Added remaining 7/1928 - 10/1947 ORERs
04-Nov-2021	KG Akerboom	Added car disposition record data
22-Jan-2022	KG Akerboom	Added ICC Valuation data
10-Jul-2022	KG Akerboom	Updated per [almost] complete ORER data
04-Jan-2023	KG Akerboom	Fixed headers and footers...hopefully
04-Mar-2023	KG Akerboom	Clarified Note 4 dates
02-May-2023	KG Akerboom	Added 1893-1894 "Special Cars" notes
22-May-2023	KG Akerboom	Back-filled 1897 data
27-May-2023	KG Akerboom	Back-filled 1900 data
10-Oct-2024	KG Akerboom	Fixed ORER car count 1922-01 thru 1923-03
12-Nov-2024	KG Akerboom	Split 1923 "12003-12037" cars into a separate web page