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12423-12484 sub-class
Does one exist?12300-12399 sub-class
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For more info on the classification cards and "webitizing" them, see this web page12300-12399 sub-class
(B&M Type steel underframe)From 1942 class book.
Red text was black on original scan, above process removed it entirely, so (as best as I could read it) I re-added it
Note 1: Possibly: "2' - 4⅝" ... " [possibly one car series]
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12423-12484 from Tim Gilbert
Additional (Laconia) information from Eric Neubauer
Spec 12423-12484 12300-12399 Builder Various Laconia Car Co. Lot # 6 30 Spec # 217 Order # 543 (cars)
544 (trucks)
(ordered 02-1909)Quantity 62 100 Build Date 1903-1907 1908-1909 Dimension "A"
(max outside width)9'-3¼" 9'-6⅞" Dimension "B"
(door height)7'-8½" 7'-7¼" Dimension "C"
(inside height to carlines)8'-0" 8'-0¾" AAR class XA Lt Weight 31,000 lbs (approx) 37,500 lbs (approx) Description 36' Wood underframe boxcars, double-sheathed
Some cars received composite underframes
(steel center sills) beginning before 191436' B&M style steel underframe boxcars,
double-sheathedCubic Cap'y Original: 2,467 Cu. Ft.
Mogul ends: 2,455 Cu. Ft.
7/7 stamped steel ends: 2,483 Cu. Ft.Original: 2,467 Cu. Ft.
7/7 stamped steel ends: 2,542 Cu. Ft.Truss Rods four x 1⅛" Trucks Fox Bettendorf, 62" wheelbase
Per Eric Neubauer - Pressed Steel Railcar Production
(June 2014 "Car of the month") data
Bettendorf order 2871Springs 7" x 7", 1¼" outside (¾" inside) steel Journals 4¼" x 8" (60,000 lbs nominal capacity) Side Bearings 67" center to center, 33¼" from rail to top of truck side bearing Air Brake HC 812 8" x 12" cylinder Center Plates Fox Contour Coupler 5" x 5" shanks, 6½" butts 9⅛" butt Coupler Yoke Keyed Draft Gear Tandem spring Miner Tandem Added by 1952 class card: Brake Beam #2 For D. Gears, couplers & D. Gear Spacing see Dwg. 15947 Light Weight 40,200 lbs Note:
Cars 12300-12399 had underframes built by Bettendorf:
Item Data Date 1909 Bettendorf order 2871 Notes Includes trucks
ORER Size Data - 1908-1910 Description 9/1908 Length 36' Width 8'-6" Height 8' Capacity (Pounds) 60000
ORER Size Data Description 6/1910 2/1911 3/1911 11/1911 10/1918 3/1925 8/1929 10/1930 11/1930 3/1935
(12300-99 only)1/1940 Original Ends Steel Ends Original Ends Steel Ends 12300-99, Original Ends 12300-99, Steel Ends 12426-76 12300-99, Original Ends 12300-99, Steel Ends 12426-76 Original Ends Steel Ends Original Ends Steel Ends M.C.B. Designation XA XA XA XA XA XM XA XM XM XM Inside
DimensionsLength 36' 36' 36' 36' 36' 36' 36'-5¾" 36' 36'-5¾" 36' 36'-5" 36' 36' 36'-5" 36' 36' 36'-5" 36' 36'-5" Width 8'-6" 8'-6" 8'-6" 8'-6" 8'-6" 8'-6" 8'-6" 8'-6" 8'-6" 8'-6" 8'-6" Height 8' 8' 8'-0½" 8'-0½" 8'-0¾" 8'-0¾" 8'-0¾" 8' 8' 8' 8' Outside
DimensionsLength 37'-6" 37'-6" 37'-6" 37'-6" 37'-6" 37'-6" 37'-6" 37'-6" 37'-6" 37'-6" 37'-6" Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 9'-7¼" 9'-7¼" 9'-7¼" 9'-7¼" 9'-7¼" 9'-7¼" 9'-7¼" 9'-8" 9'-8" 9'-8" 9'-8" Extreme Width Height
from
RailTo Extreme Width To Eaves or top of sides or platform 12'-7¼" 12'-7¼" 12'-7¼" 12'-7¼" 12'-7¼" 12'-7¼" 12'-7¼" 12'-7" 12'-8" 12'-8" 12'-8" To Top of Running Board 13'-3¾" 13'-3¾" 13'-3¾" 13'-3¾" 13'-3¾" 13'-3¾" 13'-3¾" 13'-3" 13'-4" 13'-4" 13'-4" To Extreme Height 13'-11⅞" 13'-11⅞" 13'-11⅞" 13'-11⅞" 13'-11⅞" 13'-11⅞" 13'-11⅞" 13'-11" 14' 14' 14' Door - Side
openingWidth 6' 6' 6' 6' 6' 6' 6' 10' 10' 6' 10' 10' 6' 10' 6' Height 7'-7¼" 7'-7¼" 7'-7¼" 7'-7¼" 7'-7¼" 7'-7¼" 7'-7¼" 7'-7" 7'-7" 7'-7" 7'-7" Door - End
openingWidth 8'-1" 8'-1" 8'-1" 8'-1" 8'-1" 8'-1" … … … Height 7'-5" 7'-5" 7'-5" 7'-5" 7'-5" 7'-5" … … … Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 2460 2460 2460 2467 2467 2505 2467 2505 2467 2505 2467 2467 2505 2467 2467 2505 2467 2505 Pounds 60000 60000 60000 60000 60000 60000 60000 60000 60000 60000 60000
ORER History ORER Date
(Year-Mo.)Car
Numbers# of
CarsDescription Note: Up to 8/1908 there was a 12450-12599 series (continuing in 9/1908 as 12485-12599)
I am unsure if the 12423-12484 were included in that series,
or if 12423-12484 are new cars and the "conflicting" 12450 series cars were either not existing,
or renumbered to clear out 12450-12484 for this series.
The car counts and dimensions seem to indicate the former, but are not conclusive.1908 - 09 12423-12484 60 Box, Auto 1908 - 10 (same) 1908 - 11 12300-12484 60 1908 - 12 (same) 1909 - 01 (same) 1909 - 02 (same) 1909 - 03 (same) 1909 - 04 (same) 1909 - 05 " 160 " 1909 - 06 (same) 1909 - 07 (same) 1909 - 08 (same) 1909 - 09 " 159 " 1909 - 10 (same) 1909 - 11 (same) 1909 - 12 (same) 1910 - 01 (same) 1910 - 02 (same) 1910 - 03 (same) 1910 - 04 (same) 1910 - 05 (same) 1910 - 06 12100-12484 " " 1910 - 07 (same) 12100-12299 Broken off into separate listing 1910 - 08 12300-12484 " " 1910 - 09 (same) 1910 - 10 (same) 1910 - 11 (same) 1910 - 12 (same) 1911 - 01 " 158 " 1911 - 02 (same) 1911 - 03 (same) 1911 - 04 (same) 1911 - 05 " 157 " 1911 - 06 (same) 1911 - 07 (same) 1911 - 08 (same) 1911 - 09 (same) 1911 - 10 (same) 1911 - 11 (same) 1911 - 12 (same) 1912 - 01 (same) 1912 - 02 (same) 1912 - 03 (same) 1912 - 04 (same) 1912 - 05 (same) 1912 - 06 (same) 1912 - 07 (same) 1912 - 08 (same) 1912 - 09 (same) 1912 - 10 (same) 1912 - 11 " " Box, Automobile 1912 - 12 (same) 1913 - 01 (same) 1913 - 02 (same) 1913 - 03 " 156 " 1913 - 04 (same) 1913 - 05 (same) 1913 - 06 " 155 " 1913 - 07 (same) 1913 - 08 (same) 1913 - 09 (same) 1913 - 10 (same) 1913 - 11 (same) 1913 - 12 (same) 1914 - 01 " 154 " 1914 - 02 12300-12472 155 " 1914 - 03 (same) 1914 - 04 12300-12484 155 " 1914 - 05 (same) 1914 - 06 (same) 1914 - 07 (same) 1914 - 08 (same) 1914 - 09 (same) 1914 - 10 (same) 1914 - 11 (same) 1914 - 12 (same) 1915 - 01 (same) 1915 - 02 (same) 1915 - 03 " 154 " 1915 - 04 (same) 1915 - 05 (same) 1915 - 06 (same) 1915 - 07 (same) 1915 - 08 (same) 1915 - 09 " 153 " 1915 - 10 (same) 1915 - 11 " 152 " 1915 - 12 " 151 " 1916 - 01 (same) 1916 - 02 (same) 1916 - 03 (same) 1916 - 04 (same) 1916 - 05 (same) 1916 - 06 (same) 1916 - 07 " 150 " 1916 - 08 (same) 1916 - 09 (same) 1916 - 10 " 149 " 1916 - 11 (same) 1916 - 12 (same) 1917 - 01 (same) 1917 - 02 (same) 1917 - 03 (same) 1917 - 04 (same) 1917 - 05 (same) 1917 - 06 (same) 1917 - 07 (same) 1917 - 08 (same) 1917 - 09 (same) 1917 - 10 (same) 1917 - 11 (same) 1917 - 12 (same) 1918 - 01 " 148 " 1918 - 02 (same) 1918 - 03 (same) 1918 - 04 (same) 1918 - 05 (same) 1918 - 06 (same) 1918 - 07 " 147 " 1918 - 08 (same) 1918 - 09 (same) 1918 - 10 " 146 " 1918 - 11 " 145 " 1918 - 12 (same) 1919 - 01 12300-12483 144 " 1919 - 02 (same) 1919 - 03 (same) 1919 - 04 (same) 1919 - 05 (same) 1919 - 06 (same) 1919 - 07 (same) 1919 - 08 " 143 " 1919 - 09 (same) 1919 - 10 (same) 1919 - 11 (same) 1919 - 12 (same) 1920 - 01 (same) 1920 - 02 (same) 1920 - 03 " 142 " 1920 - 04 (same) 1920 - 05 (same) 1920 - 06 (same) 1920 - 07 (same) 1920 - 08 (same) 1920 - 09 (same) 1920 - 10 " 141 " 1920 - 11 (same) 1920 - 12 " 140 " 1921 - 01 12300-12477 139 " 1921 - 02 (same) 1921 - 03 " 138 " 1921 - 04 " 137 " 1921 - 05 (same) 1921 - 06 (same) 1921 - 07 (same) 1921 - 08 (same) 1921 - 09 (same) 1921 - 10 (same) 1921 - 11 (same) 1921 - 12 (same) 1922 - 01 (same) 1922 - 02 (same) 1922 - 03 (same) 1922 - 04 (same) 1922 - 05 (same) 1922 - 06 (same) 1922 - 07 (same) 1922 - 08 (same) 1922 - 09 (same) 1922 - 10 (same) 1922 - 11 (same) 1922 - 12 (same) 1923 - 01 " 136 " 1923 - 02 (same) 1923 - 03 (same) 1923 - 04 (same) 1923 - 05 (same) 1923 - 06 (same) 1923 - 07 (same) 1923 - 08 (same) 1923 - 09 (same) 1923 - 10 " 134 " 1923 - 11 (same) 1923 - 12 (same) 1924 - 01 (same) 1924 - 02 (same) 1924 - 03 (same) 1924 - 04 (same) 1924 - 05 (same) 1924 - 06 (same) 1924 - 07 (same) 1924 - 08 (same) 1924 - 09 (same) 1924 - 10 " 133 " 1924 - 11 (same) 1924 - 12 (same) 1925 - 01 " 132 " 1925 - 02 " 131 " 1925 - 03 12300-12477 128 Box, Automobile 3 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1925 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1925 - 05 12300-12477 123 Box, Automobile 4 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1925 - 06 (same) (both rows) 1925 - 07 12300-12477 121 Box, Automobile 5 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1925 - 08 (same) (both rows) 1925 - 09 (same) (both rows) 1925 - 10 12300-12477 120 Box, Automobile 5 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1925 - 11 (same) (both rows) 1925 - 12 (same) (both rows) 1926 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1926 - 02 (same) (both rows) 1926 - 03 (same) (both rows) 1926 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1926 - 05 (same) (both rows) 1926 - 06 (same) (both rows) 1926 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1926 - 08 (same) (both rows) 1926 - 09 (same) (both rows) 1926 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1926 - 11 (same) (both rows) 1926 - 12 (same) (both rows) 1927 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1927 - 02 (same) (both rows) 1927 - 03 (same) (both rows) 1927 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1927 - 05 (same) (both rows) MTC cars listed separately, no cars in this series listed under MTC 1927 - 06 (same) (both rows) 1927 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1927 - 08 (same) (both rows) 1927 - 09 (same) (both rows) 1927 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1927 - 11 12300-12477 119 Box, Automobile 5 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1927 - 12 (same) (both rows) 1928 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1928 - 02 12300-12477 118 Box, Automobile 5 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1928 - 03 (same) (both rows) 1928 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1928 - 05 (same) (both rows) 1928 - 06 (same) (both rows) 1928 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1928 - 08 (same) (both rows) 1928 - 09 12300-12477 117 Box, Automobile 5 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1928 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1928 - 11 12300-12477 116 Box, Automobile 5 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1928 - 12 (same) (both rows) 1929 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1929 - 02 12300-12477 115 Box, Automobile 6 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1929 - 03 12300-12477 114 Box, Automobile 7 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1929 - 04 12300-12477 101 Box, Automobile 20 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1929 - 05 12300-12477 91 Box, Automobile 29 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1929 - 06 12300-12477 86 Box, Automobile 30 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1929 - 07 12300-12477 84 Box, Automobile 30 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1929 - 08 12300-12477 83 Box, Automobile 30 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1929 - 09 12300-12477 74 Box, Automobile 39 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1929 - 10 12300-12476 72 Box, Automobile 39 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1929 - 11 (same) (both rows) 1929 - 12 12300-12476 70 Box, Automobile 39 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1930 - 01 12300-12476 68 Box, Automobile 39 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1930 - 02 12300-12476 67 Box, Automobile 39 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1930 - 03 (same) (both rows) 1930 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1930 - 05 (same) (both rows) 1930 - 06 12300-12476 66 Box, Automobile 39 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1930 - 07 (same) (both rows) Some cars split off into "plain" box car series (MCB designation "XM", door 6' wide) 1930 - 08 12300-12399 58 Box, Automobile 39 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 12426-12476 8 Box 1930 - 09 (same) (all 3 rows) 1930 - 10 (same) (all 3 rows) 1930 - 11 (same) (all 3 rows) 1930 - 12 (same) (all 3 rows) 1931 - 01 (same) (all 3 rows) 1931 - 02 (same) (all 3 rows) 1931 - 03 (same) (all 3 rows) 1931 - 04 (same) (all 3 rows) 1931 - 05 12300-12399 58 Box, Automobile 39 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 12439-12476 6 Box 1931 - 06 (same) (all 3 rows) 1931 - 07 (same) (all 3 rows) 1931 - 08 (same) (all 3 rows) 1931 - 09 (same) (all 3 rows) 1931 - 10 (same) (all 3 rows) 1931 - 11 (same) (all 3 rows) 1931 - 12 (same) (all 3 rows) 1932 - 01 (same) (all 3 rows) 1932 - 02 (same) (all 3 rows) 1932 - 03 (same) (all 3 rows) 1932 - 04 (same) (all 3 rows) 1932 - 05 (same) (all 3 rows) 1932 - 06 (same) (all 3 rows) Switch to Bi-monthly 1932 - 07 (same) (all 3 rows) 1932 - 09 [No changes noted] 1932 - 11 [No changes noted] 1933 - 01 [No changes noted] 1933 - 03 [No changes noted] 1933 - 05 [No changes noted] MTC cars Recombined under B&M listing 1933 - 07 (same) (all 3 rows) 1933 - 09 [No changes noted] 1933 - 11 [No changes noted] 1934 - 01 [No changes noted] 1934 - 03 [No changes noted] 1934 - 05 [No changes noted] 1934 - 07 12300-12399 57 Box, Automobile 39 Box, Automobile, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 12439-12476 [blank] Box 1934 - 09 [No changes noted] 1934 - 11 [No changes noted] 1935 - 01 [No changes noted] 1935 - 03 Change "MCB designation" for both 12300-12399 lines to read "XM" 1935 - 05 Change description of 1st 12300-12399 line (no "Note") to read "Box"
Change "MCB designation" for both 12300-12399 lines to read "XM"1935 - 07 12300-12399 53 Box 37 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 12439-12476 Not Listed 1935 - 09 [No changes noted] 1935 - 11 [No changes noted] 1936 - 01 [No changes noted] 1936 - 03 [No changes noted] 1936 - 05 [No changes noted] 1936 - 07 12300-12399 52 Box 36 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1936 - 09 [No changes noted] 1936 - 11 [No changes noted] 1937 - 01 [No changes noted] 1937 - 03 [No changes noted] 1937 - 05 [No changes noted] Switch to Quarterly 1937 - 07 12300-12399 50 Box 35 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1937 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1938 - 01 12300-12399 48 Box 35 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1938 - 04 12300-12399 48 Box 34 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1938 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1938 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1939 - 01 12300-12399 45 Box 32 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1939 - 04 12300-12399 41 Box 31 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1939 - 07 12300-12399 33 Box 28 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note C) 1939 - 10 12300-12399 28 Box 27 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note C) 1940 - 01 12300-12399 24 Box 24 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note C) 1940 - 04 12300-12399 21 Box 24 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note C) 1940 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1940 - 10 12300-12399 14 Box 12 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note C) 1941 - 01 12300-12399 12 Box 12 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note C) 1941 - 04 12300-12399 12 Box 10 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note C) 1941 - 07 12300-12399 11 Box 10 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note C) 1941 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1942 - 01 12301-12392 11 Box 9 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note C) 1942 - 04 12301-12392 8 Box 9 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note C) 1942 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1942 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1943 - 01 12301-12394 9 Box 9 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note C) 1943 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1943 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1943 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1944 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1944 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1944 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1944 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1945 - 01 (same) (both rows) 1945 - 04 (same) (both rows) 1945 - 07 (same) (both rows) 1945 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1946 - 01 12301-12394 8 Box 9 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note C) 1946 - 04 12301-12394 7 Box 9 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note C) 1946 - 07 12301-12394 6 Box 9 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note C) 1946 - 10 12301-12394 5 Box 9 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note C) 1947 - 01 12301-12394 2 Box 7 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note C) 1947 - 04 12301-12394 1 Box 6 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note C) 1947 - 07 12301-12394 1 Box 2 Box, Steel Ends (ORER Note B) 1947 - 10 (same) (both rows) 1948 - 01 Not listed
Does NOT have "*" indicating "Air Brakes" (1908-09 thru 1909-06)
ORER Note F (3/1925 - 9/1930)
Individual numbers of cars in series 12300 to 12477 equipped with steel ends differing in dimensional and cubical capacity from other numbers in same series. Actual inside length, 36 ft. 5¾ in. (These cars are stencilled 37 ft. 6 in.) Capacity 2505 cu. ft.: [see table below]ORER Note F (10/1930 - 4/1939); ORER Note C (7/1939 - 4/1947); B (7/1947 - 10/1947)
Individual numbers of cars in series 12300 to 12399 equipped with steel ends differing in dimensional and cubical capacity from other numbers in same series. Actual inside length, 36 ft. 5 in. (These cars are stencilled 37 ft. 6 in.) Capacity 2505 cu. ft.: [see table below]
Steel Ends Car # End Applied By Last Listed First Not
listed in192x-
19251926-
19281929 1931-
19351936-
19401941-
19451946-
195012306 4/1929 → 7/1936 7/1937 12309 5/1929 → 7/1940 10/1940 12315 5/1929 → 10/1939 1/1940 12318 4/1929 → → 1/1941 4/1941 12320 9/1929 → → → 10/1947 1/1948 12321 3/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 12323 9/1929 → 7/1940 10/1940 12324 4/1929 → → 10/1941 1/1942 12328 5/1929 → 7/1939 10/1939 12335 9/1929 → 7/1940 10/1940 12339 6/1929 → 10/1939 1/1940 12340 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 12347 9/1929 → 7/1940 10/1940 12348 5/1929 → → 1/1941 4/1941 12352 9/1929 → 1/1938 4/1938 12353 4/1929 → → → 4/1947 10/1947 12356 4/1929 → 10/1938 1/1939 12358 5/1929 → → 4/1947 10/1947 12361 3/1929 → 4/1939 7/1939 12363 9/1929 → 7/1940 10/1940 12365 4/1929 → → → 4/1947 10/1947 12366 9/1929 → → → 4/1947 10/1947 12367 3/1925 → → → → → 10/1946 1/1947 12371 5/1929 → 10/1939 1/1940 12372 4/1929 → 7/1940 10/1940 12375 5/1929 → 1/1939 4/1939 12376 4/1929 → 7/1940 10/1940 12380 4/1929 → → → 10/1947 1/1948 12381 4/1929 7/1935 7/1936 12382 2/1929 → → → 1/1947 4/1947 12385 4/1929 → → → 10/1946 1/1947 12386 4/1929 → 7/1940 10/1940 12387 4/1929 7/1934 7/1935 12389 3/1925 → → 7/1934 7/1935 12391 5/1929 → 4/1939 7/1939 12393 5/1929 → 10/1938 1/1939 12394 7/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 12396 9/1929 → 7/1940 10/1940 12399 9/1929 → 7/1940 10/1940
- Per Tim Gilbert
For Tim Gilbert's notes on this series, see hereAdditional notes from Tim for these specific series:
Lot 6 [car series #12423-12484] had their end doors sealed after 1926[car series #12300-12399] had their end doors sealed in the late 1920s, reclassified as "XM"
- For more details on the Mogul ends, see here
- As shown above, this "series" was actually 2 different orders:
While initially listed together, by 1930 they were split into separate listings
- 12423-12484 - 62(?) cars (possibly more than 1 order?)
- 12300-12399 - 100 cars.
By 7/1935, the 12423-12484 cars appear to have been retired.- From Eric Neubauer Laconia data, the following cars were listed in the USRA valuation report, 6/30/1914:
[see ICC valuation data below]
- B&MRRHS 1900-1907 Freight Car Lettering Book No. 1 (Reprint of B&M lettering diagrams)
Note the "Book page number" below refers to the page number in the B&MRRHS book.
As the B&MRRHS book's pages are NOT numbered, "1" is the first page with an actual diagram! (NOT the title pages or index pages)
"U" = upper diagram on that page, "L" = lower diagramThe "Diagram number" refers to the circled number (lower right corner) in each diagram (the original page number)
Book page # 32 - U B&M Diagram # 59 Diagram Date 1907 Color on Diagram Brown Notes on Diagram end door shown Datum 1900 Index 1907 Index Class of car n/a Box Car Automobile Length n/a 36' inside Capacity n/a 60,000 Car Numbers n/a 12423-12472 Page [original] n/a 59
Volume number refers original book number
Page numbers refer to numbers on pages in original book, NOT to pages in PDF file(s)
Dates refer to first/last dates expenses were recorded in the acquisition book, NOT to car delivery dates
Vol Page Car Number(s) First
DateLast
DateBuilder $ / Car Notes 1 180 12300-12399 1908-06 1909-11 Laconia Car Co. $1101 contract 6567
Volume number refers original book number
Part number refers to PDF file part as posted on B&MRRHS site
Page numbers refer to pages in PDF file(s) (L/R = Left or Right side of that PDF page)
NOTE: once cars get renumbered into "company service" (zero + number, or W/M/S numbers), the following actions are my "best guess" as to what happened to the car (due to gaps in records, and the re-use of numbers)
Car Book Data Car Disposition Data Car
NumberVol Part Page Date Action Location New # Notes ID Date Built Date Rebuilt Disposition
DateDisposition 12300 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-07 Retired 12301 3 1 7R 1945-12-15 Destroyed Billerica B 1909-03 [same] Retired 12302 [not listed] A 1909-03 1936-07 Retired 12303 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-11 Retired 12304 [not listed] A 1909-03 1936-10 Retired 12305 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-07 Retired 12306 [not listed] A 1909-03 1936-11 Retired 12307 [not listed] A 1909-03 1941-12 Retired 12307 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-01 Retired 12308 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-08 Retired 12310 3 2 9L 1947-01 Sold to Marcalus Mfg Co B 1909-03 [same] Retired 12311 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-07 Retired 12312 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-02 Retired 12313 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-10 Retired 12314 [not listed] A 1909-03 1935-08 Retired 12315 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-09 Retired 12316 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-09 to W3536 12317 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-02 Retired 12318 [not listed] A 1909-03 1941-01 Retired 12319 [not listed] A 1909-03 1938-08 Retired 12320 3 3 10L 1947-10-27 Destroyed Billerica B 1909-03 [same] Retired 12321 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-07 Retired 12322 [not listed] A 1909-03 1935-02 Retired 12323 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-07 Retired 12324 [not listed] A 1909-03 1941-10 to W3064 12325 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-11 Retired 12326 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-07 Retired 12327 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-05 Retired 12328 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-05 Retired 12329 [not listed] A 1909-03 1937-11 to W3900 12330 [not listed] A 1909-03 1933-10 Destroyed 12331 [not listed] A 1909-03 1937-09 Retired 12332 [not listed] A 1909-03 1938-11 Retired 12333 3 2 9L 1947-01 Sold to Marcalus Mfg Co B 1909-03 [same] Retired 12334 3 1 10L 1946-06-05 Destroyed Billerica B 1909-03 [same] Retired 12335 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-07 Retired 12336 [not listed] Not listed in "A", presumed retired before ?1923? 12337 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-01 Retired 12338 [not listed] Not listed in "A", presumed retired before ?1923? 12339 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-09 Retired 12340 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-08 Retired 12341 3 2 6R 1946-12-06 Destroyed Billerica B 1909-03 [same] Retired 12342 3 2 4L 1946-10-25 Destroyed Billerica B 1909-03 1946-11 Retired 12343 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-07 Retired 12344 [not listed] A 1909-03 1935-08 Retired 12345 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-10 Retired 12346 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-07 Retired 12347 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-08 Retired 12348 [not listed] A 1909-03 1941-01 Retired 12349 [not listed] A 1909-03 1937-10 Retired 12350 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-09 Retired 12351 [not listed] A 1909-03 1941-04 to 0231 12352 [not listed] A 1909-03 1937-03 Retired 12353 3 3 3L 1947-05-10 Destroyed Concord 2 2 5 1947-05-10 Destroyed B 1909-03 [same] Retired 12354 [not listed] A 1909-03 1935-02 Retired 12355 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-04 Retired 12356 [not listed] A 1909-03 1938-09 Retired 12357 [not listed] Not listed in "A", presumed retired before ?1923? 12358 3 3 1L 1947-03-11 Renumber Concord M3176 to Bunk B 1909-03 [same as car books] 4 8 9R 1958-09-16 Sold to (boarding car)
Trojan Scrap Iron (SO 2815)12359 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-04 to W3028 12360 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-08 Retired 12361 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-02 Retired 12362 [not listed] A 1909-03 1938-11 Retired 12363 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-07 Retired 12364 [not listed] A 1909-03 1941-12 Retired 12365 3 3 1L 1947-03-08 Renumber Boston 0233 to Storage B 1909-03 [same] to 0235? 3 4 7L 1948-05-20 Renumber Boston to W3015 (Tool car) 3 5 5L 1949-02-09 Destroyed Boston 12366 3 3 3L 1947-05-22 Destroyed Billerica B 1909-03 [same] Retired 12367 3 2 4L 1946-11-29 Destroyed Billerica B 1909-03 [same] Retired 12368 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-09 Retired 12369 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-05 Retired 12370 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-03 Retired 12371 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-09 Retired 12372 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-08 Retired 12373 [not listed] A 1909-03 1938-09 Retired 12374 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-11 Retired 12375 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-01 Retired 12376 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-08 Retired 12377 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-06 Retired 12378 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-06 Retired 12379 [not listed] A 1909-03 1941-11 Retired 12380 3 3 11R 1947-10-25 Set on Ground Berlin B 1909-03 1947-11 Retired 12381 [not listed] A 1909-03 1935-02 Retired 12382 3 2 5R 1946-11-26 Renumber Nashua 0254 to Stores B 1909-03 [same as car books] 3 5 7R 1949-05-07 Destroyed Billerica 12383 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-08 Retired 12384 3 2 1R 1946-08-14 Renumber Concord W3032 to Tool B 1909-03 [same as car books] 4 6 11L 1957-03-27 Sold to M. Schiavone & Son (SO 1656) 12385 3 9 5R 1953-04-29 Destroyed Billerica B 1909-03 [same] Retired 12386 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-08 Retired 12387 [not listed] A 1909-03 1935-02 Retired 12388 [not listed] A 1909-03 1938-12 Retired 12389 [not listed] A 1909-03 1935-02 Retired 12390 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-07 Retired 12391 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-03 Retired 12392 3 1 5R 1945-08-18 Destroyed Billerica B 1909-03 1945-09 Retired 12393 [not listed] A 1909-03 1938-09 Retired 12394 A 1909-03 1939-03 to W3015 A,B 1909-03 1942-08 from from W3015, to 12394 3 1 8R 1946-02-18 Destroyed Billerica B 1909-03 1946-03 Retired 12395 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-07 Retired 12396 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-07 Retired 12397 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-07 Retired 12398 [not listed] A 1909-03 1939-05 Retired 12399 [not listed] A 1909-03 1940-07 Retired 12424 [not listed] A 1903-09 1929-05 Sold for Scrap 12426 [not listed] A 1903-06 1931-02 Sold for Scrap 12429 [not listed] A 1909-03 1928-09 Sold for Scrap 12430 [not listed] A 1904-02 1929-05 Sold for Scrap 12435 [not listed] A 1903-03 1928-07 Sold for Scrap 12436 [not listed] A 1903-03 1929-11 Sold for Scrap 12438 [not listed] A 1907-03 1929-08 Sold for Scrap 12439 [not listed] A 1903-04 1935-02 Retired 12440 [not listed] A 1903-02 1933-08 Retired 12441 [not listed] A 1906-05 1929-06 Sold for Scrap 12442 [not listed] A 1903-06 1920-06 1929-10 Sold for Scrap 12443 [not listed] A 1903-03 1920-07 1935-02 Retired 12444 [not listed] A 1903-03 1930-04 Sold for Scrap 12450 [not listed] A 1903-02 1935-02 Retired 12452 [not listed] A 1903-04 1921-04 1929-04 Sold for Scrap 12455 1 1 4 1922-11-08 Destroyed Not listed in "A" 12458 [not listed] A 1905-12 1935-02 Retired 12460 [not listed] A 1903-03 1929-03 Sold for Scrap 12463 [not listed] A 1903-06 1929-04 Sold for Scrap 12464 1 1 4 1922-11-10 Destroyed Not listed in "A" 12465 [not listed] A 1903-03 1920-06 1929-10 Sold for Scrap 12466 [not listed] A 1905-11 1929-11 Destroyed 12467 [not listed] A 1903-04 1929-12 Sold for Scrap 12468 [not listed] A 1903-03 1929-04 Sold for Scrap 12470 1 4 9 1927-09-14 Destroyed Not listed in "A" 12474 [not listed] A 1903-03 1931-02 Sold for Scrap 12475 [not listed] A 1903-03 1921-02 1929-04 Sold for Scrap 12476 [not listed] A 1903-04 1921-01 1935-02 Retired A 1935-06 to 0202 12477 [not listed] A 1903-05 1921-01 1929-08 Sold for Scrap
Source(s) (ID scope is for this web page only) ID Box Folder Folder name Link Title Approx.
Start dateApprox.
End dateA 1 3 Freight Car List Old 10190 - 12758 Auto + Misc after 1923? 1944? B 1 5 Freight Car List Old 12178-12394 Auto - "B" 1944? 1947?
For more info on the ICC valuation data, see this web page
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DateBuilder Capy Underframe Body Notes B&M 12300-12356 BM-14 1 Automobile 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 12358-12399 BM-14 2 Automobile 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 12423 BM-14 3 Automobile 1903 Fitchburg 60 wood wood B&M 12424 BM-14 10 Automobile 1903 Concord 60 wood wood B&M 12425 BM-14 19 Automobile 1907 Pressed St[eel] 60 wood wood B&M 12426 BM-14 4 Automobile 1903 Fitchburg 60 wood wood B&M 12427 BM-14 22 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12428 BM-14 15 Automobile 1907 Pressed St[eel] 60 wood wood B&M 12429 BM-14 14 Automobile 1903 Concord 60 composite wood B&M 12430 BM-14 7 Automobile 1904 Fitchburg 60 wood wood B&M 12431 BM-14 53 Automobile 1906 Pullman 60 wood wood B&M 12432 BM-14 23 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12433 BM-14 46 Automobile 1903 Laconia 60 wood wood B&M 12434 BM-14 5 Automobile 1903 Fitchburg 60 wood wood B&M 12435-12437 BM-14 24 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12438 BM-14 20 Automobile 1907 Pressed St[eel] 60 wood wood B&M 12439 BM-14 25 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12440 BM-14 26 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12441 BM-14 50 Automobile 1906 Laconia 60 wood wood B&M 12442 BM-14 11 Automobile 1903 Concord 60 wood wood B&M 12443 BM-14 27 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12444 BM-14 28 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12445 BM-14 51 Automobile 1906 Western St[eel] 60 wood wood B&M 12446 BM-14 29 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12447 BM-14 30 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12448 BM-14 52 Automobile 1906 Western St[eel] 60 wood wood B&M 12449 BM-14 43 Automobile 1905 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12450 BM-14 31 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12452 BM-14 32 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12454 BM-14 33 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12455 BM-14 21 Automobile 1907 Pressed St[eel] 60 wood wood B&M 12456 BM-14 34 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12458 BM-14 44 Automobile 1905 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12459 BM-14 35 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12460 BM-14 36 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12461 BM-14 6 Automobile 1903 Fitchburg 60 wood wood B&M 12462 BM-14 47 Automobile 1903 Laconia 60 wood wood B&M 12463 BM-14 12 Automobile 1903 Concord 60 wood wood B&M 12464 BM-14 9 Automobile 1902 Concord 60 wood wood B&M 12465 BM-14 37 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12466 BM-14 45 Automobile 1905 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12467 BM-14 38 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12468 BM-14 39 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12469 BM-14 16 Automobile 1907 Pressed St[eel] 60 wood wood B&M 12470 BM-14 40 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12471 BM-14 17 Automobile 1907 Pressed St[eel] 60 wood wood B&M 12472 BM-14 18 Automobile 1907 Pressed St[eel] 60 wood wood B&M 12473-12476 BM-14 41 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12477 BM-14 48 Automobile 1903 Laconia 60 wood wood B&M 12480 BM-14 13 Automobile 1903 Concord 60 wood wood B&M 12481 BM-14 49 Automobile 1903 Laconia 60 wood wood B&M 12483 BM-14 42 Automobile 1903 MDT 60 wood wood B&M 12484 BM-14 8 Automobile 1904 Fitchburg 60 wood wood
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16-Aug-2020KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid 01-Sep-2020 KG Akerboom Added Eric Neubauer - Laconia data 03-Sep-2020 KG Akerboom Moved builder's photo of 12387 to here 10-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Added E. Neubauer ORER data (car counts only, 15 issues) 17-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Added Car Book Data 17-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Standardized formatting of Classification Card(s) section 19-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Updated 1942 Classification Card 31-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Updated misc stuff 27-Jan-2021 KG Akerboom Added info from "1900-1907 Freight Car Lettering Diagrams" book 10-Apr-2021 KG Akerboom Added info from 47 more ORERs 1903 thru 1917 04-Jul-2021 KG Akerboom Reorganized Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data (Car # to 1st column, 2nd/other changes to new rows) 26-Sep-2021 KG Akerboom Added car disposition record data 23-Nov-2021 KG Akerboom Updated ORER "Note F [or C]" data with 7/1928 - 10/1947 ORERs 22-Jan-2022 KG Akerboom Added ICC Valuation data 04-Jan-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed headers and footers...hopefully 23-Jan-2023 KG Akerboom Updated ORER main and exceptions tables with complete data 25-Feb-2023 KG Akerboom Fixed link to scanned data (car books)
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